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Question h22 turbo or all motor ?

hey guys how u all doing ? i got couple questions .
I got a h22 that im building i already go a set of 900$ rods and im thinking about getting the mahle gold series pistons stock bore . so my question is how much hp would i get of this motor if i build my bottom end without blowing my motor ? if is not much would it be better if i just do motor work ?
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Re: h22 turbo or all motor ?

honestly you're asking a stupid question. actually i don't even know what you're asking. how much hp will your h22 make? are you using a turbo or are you going all motor? maybe you should give some specs. all i can say is if you're using $900 rods you're adding an additional 900hp.
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If you're asking which way you should go, N/A or turbo, then my opinion would be to go turbo. You can make more power reliably with forced induction than you can N/A.
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Re: h22 turbo or all motor ?

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If you're asking which way you should go, N/A or turbo, then my opinion would be to go turbo. You can make more power reliably with forced induction than you can N/A.
so if i build my bottom end with my 900 set of rods and low compretion 8.9-1 mahle gold series pistons and toga high performance rod and main bearring kit i should be fine with 20 psi without blowing the engine ??
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h22's need sleeves.
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Re: h22 turbo or all motor ?

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h22's need sleeves.
so do shirts

as potent as the h22 is boosted ive seen a few street motors at 2.5 or race motors at even 2.7 sickly high comp and ITBS making great 1/4 times.

if it was a drag car i'd say boost a street car i'd take to 2.5 N.A.

Is this a race motor or street motor?

BTW signal whos that in your avatar? looks like the highlander
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Re: h22 turbo or all motor ?

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h22's need sleeves.
the guy that works with this compnay told me that if i keed stock bore size pistons i should be able to get 25 psi with no problems meaning no block sleeves. like i say i already got a set of 900 rods. so he told me that get the new pistons from mahle
here is the web site
check it out guys and let me know what u think
ohh and i heard that h22's need sleeves when u bore over

http://importperformanceparts.net/im...old-honda.html
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wow. first time i've ever seen those. let us know if they work well.
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Re: h22 turbo or all motor ?

I've never heard of those pistons, other than in another thread. With other pistons (companies I mean) you will have to sleeve the block whether you're using standard size pistons or over boring. It has to do with the material that the stock h22a sleeves are made of (not being weak like people say; learned this a few months ago myself). But personally I'd go with a company that is well know like SRP/JE, Arias, or CP; and sleeve it. My friend went with Darton Sleeves and SRP (maybe JE) pistons, and he's been boosting with no problems. And just a little hint for you if you do boost it; get some sticky ass tires or slicks so you don't just spin your tires.
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Re: Re: h22 turbo or all motor ?

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so if i build my bottom end with my 900 set of rods and low compretion 8.9-1 mahle gold series pistons and toga high performance rod and main bearring kit i should be fine with 20 psi without blowing the engine ??
First off, forget about these $900 set of rods. You need to realize that price isn't what matters. What is important is that you're going to want to run a set of forged rods so if that set is forged and from a respectable company then go ahead and use them. You don't need a forged crank but I would suggest it. Pistons you could go with forged but you're not much worse off with a good set of cast pistons. You will also want to sleeve the block for that kind of boost and get some better bearings. I would also suggest getting better hardware for the engine. Don't overlook your head as well. You will also need to work on your fuel system to get run that kind of boost and you will need an intercooler. Most turbo-charged engines die from detonation caused problems or good old rod knock. Just keep the compression at 8:1 - 9:1 and make sure you run 91 octane or higher fuel along with changing your oil every 3,000 miles and make sure it doesn’t get low.

I don't know a great deal about Honda engines. I just lurk in here for advice on turbo-charging in general.
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Re: Re: Re: h22 turbo or all motor ?

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First off, forget about these $900 set of rods. You need to realize that price isn't what matters. What is important is that you're going to want to run a set of forged rods so if that set is forged and from a respectable company then go ahead and use them. You don't need a forged crank but I would suggest it. Pistons you could go with forged but you're not much worse off with a good set of cast pistons. You will also want to sleeve the block for that kind of boost and get some better bearings. I would also suggest getting better hardware for the engine. Don't overlook your head as well. You will also need to work on your fuel system to get run that kind of boost and you will need an intercooler. Most turbo-charged engines die from detonation caused problems or good old rod knock. Just keep the compression at 8:1 - 9:1 and make sure you run 91 octane or higher fuel along with changing your oil every 3,000 miles and make sure it doesn’t get low.

I don't know a great deal about Honda engines. I just lurk in here for advice on turbo-charging in general.
where can i get my block sleeved ? i live in virginia is there a way that u can find on the internet the closed store to my address ? would a block guard work make any difference?
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where can i get my block sleeved ? i live in virginia is there a way that u can find on the internet the closed store to my address ? would a block guard work make any difference?
Look for a machine shop. That is the kind of place you would get sleeves installed. You know, the kinds of places that rebuild engines, bore cylinders, port and polish heads.

Just look for a place like that. Like I said, I don't know a great deal about Honda engines, just turbo-charging.
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