underground vs. mainstream

[pimprolla112]

Ok i know im going to get alot of shit for this but i dont care this section is opinion orriented so fuck it. But me and a few friends have been talking about this for about a week now and i want some outside opinions. Yeah i know manson is supposed to be the most hardcore metal artist after like 98 but how in the hell can people go around saying that his band is underground music. I grew up in school listening to dimmu bogir, COF, slayer,FF, napalm death even some punk and harcore punk bands like glassjaw and deftones. Yeah there not all underground or mainstream but ive seen people who claim to hate mainstream musicbut they swear there lives to manson. Am i the only one who thinks that he is one of the worst artists i meen hes only on mtv just as much or more than eminem his music isnt even that good. yeah its everyones own taste but going around claiming to be goth and listening to taking back sunday and manson just makes me want to laugh at them. Any feedback would be great.

[v10_viper]

Manson is mainstream.

As far as it goes to what I listen to, prolly both but more mainstream than anything. There are quite a few bands that I listen to frequently though that none of my friends know about, and I've never seen or heard on tv or radio. One of those bands is Scars of Life, and they absolutley kick ass. Plus, two friends that are girls, both their brothers are in bands, and my cousin is in a band up by the Twin cities and these bands are fairly popular where they are at, and all have some good music and I could see them all become mainstream stuff. I'll post up websites to two of them if wanted.

[RallyRaider]

Lables are overrated. Who cares what catergory music fits in. People should listen with their ears, not their eyes or perception of what is hip.

[-Josh-]

Originally Posted by RallyRaider

Lables are overrated. Who cares what catergory music fits in. People should listen with their ears, not their eyes or perception of what is hip.

[drewh4386]

Originally Posted by RallyRaider

Lables are overrated. Who cares what catergory music fits in. People should listen with their ears, not their eyes or perception of what is hip.

Couldn't agree more.

[pimprolla112]

il agree with you on that music is music if it sounds good then hey who the fuck cares what everyone else says its just these punk kids who keep going around saying how mainstream sucks and they make manson sound like hes the best.

[Suislide]

taking back sunday is not goth.

just a correction.

but Phil is absolutely right. if you're spending all your time worrying about "oh no, this band is way too mainsteam now. i'm going to stop liking them because too many other people like them"...then you're not really a music fan at all are you? you're a trend follower.

i'm not saying you yourself are, just in general.

[eversio11]

"No music is any good if everyone else likes it"

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by Suislide

but Phil is absolutely right. if you're spending all your time worrying about "oh no, this band is way too mainsteam now. i'm going to stop liking them because too many other people like them"...then you're not really a music fan at all are you? you're a trend follower.

i'm not saying you yourself are, just in general.

I agree.

[travis712]

Originally Posted by RallyRaider

Lables are overrated. Who cares what catergory music fits in. People should listen with their ears, not their eyes or perception of what is hip.

[Jimster]

Brian and Phil had it right the first time.


The worst conformists are those who hate mainstream because it's "cool" to hate on mainstream bands, they call people who listen to mainstream bands "sheep", but at the same time are doing the same things themselves. It gets seriously annoying, but I do my damn best to ignore them.

[chevydrummer76]

Yah i hate it when people say "mainstream sucks" or call bands sellouts. They're still the same band when they get popular. I mean honestly would you want your band to be playing in smokey bars for 100$ a gig, or playing in front of thosands making millions?

[pimprolla112]

I agree with everything there is no way for anyone to determine whats mainstream and whats underground or what sucks. I listen to everything i really dont care what band it is or waht music it is. Jimster pretty muched put it how i wanted to say it that these people classify themselves by the bands they listen to and as he put it "it gets annoying". I know damn well that taking back sunday isnt goth or in any case metal/rock or whatever genre its considered but apparantly the kids in school now have never even heard of most of the good bands that made metal what it is today. But il agree its stupid to label music and its even more fucked when people stop listening to shit cause its the cool thing to do thats how bands sell out and disapear.

[thrasher]

I'm gonna have to go out on a limb and say most mainstream music does suck. Just about anything on the popular radio stations in Minneapolis is watered down shit (50 cent, Simple Plan, Good Charlotte, etc...). I can't stand listening to the stuff, it has absolutely no musical or lyrical value. If they can play good music I don't care if they're mainstream or not. Most people who listen to the pop radio stations aren't hardcore music fans anyways

[pimprolla112]

Yeah i know what you meen about the radio sucking ass as far as good music. We used to have 99.1 and they would play nothing but modest mouse, good charlote and occasionaly some decent shit. It took me 3 months for them to play some pantera and considering it was a dc station they never even jumped on nothingface. Now there a spanish music station sucks since 101 sucks ass. Like thrasher said if its good music then who the fuck cares.