Major Major Major Problem

pr0ject01 · #1 04-10-2005, 10:43 PM

Hey guys, some of you may know me some of you may not, but I havent posted here for a really really long time.. but i still hope that you guys can help me. I did something seriously stupid, and I dont know if this is fixable or not. Alright, first off I will tell you the little things that were wrong with my car before I raced. I have an exhaust leak with the flex tube and everytime i shift 1st-2nd you will hear a small backfire. Also my front left brake needed a new brake pad.. and I was due for my usual 3000 mile checkup. I really take good care of my car, and I shouldnt have raced while my car was like this. Alright so were racing.. line up.. slam it... shift to 2nd... have it punched, shift to 3rd.. still have it punched.. go to shift it into 4th at about 6500 rpm (doing about 100) and I dont know what happened, i may have slammed it into 2nd or what happened, but my car just died. Power brakes came on.. didnt loose control or anything but my car was just costing.. so I pull of to the side of the road.. look under it.. everything seemed fine. Dont know what happened.. Get in.. try to start it.. it starts but dies right away.. start it up again dies right away.. start it up again giving it gas.. got it started but was idolizing at about 1/2 a grand.. really low. And also my low oil lite was on. So im like alright im getting this thing home before anything else happens to it. Start off.. my car is loud as fuck.. seems like im missing a piece of an exhaust or something. Dies on me again, luckily I was able to pull into a parking lot 3 houses from mine.. This time I go to start it.. KRRRRRRINK so.. i didnt try to start it again. Got some friends around.. helped me push it home.. as we were pushing.. there was a fluid coming out of my exaust.. drying as soon as it touched the ground. (btw no smoke or anything came from my engine) And I dont know what happened to my car. I know its either my transmittion or my engine.. still have my clutch.. still works.. When I got home I cryed my eyes out.. takes a man to say to like 50,000 people that you cry your eyes out buy yes i did. I cryed more over my car then when me and my girlfriend broke up after 1 yr 1/2. Can any of you guys try to help me? If you need anymore details ill be here for a while yet. Please help...

Stealthee · #2 04-10-2005, 11:14 PM

Sounds like it may have jumped time. Not sure what else to tell you.

uncutnick3kgt · #3 04-10-2005, 11:39 PM

hmm u may have cracked something...i'm not goig to say what but u may have cracked something... something with only in it that has moving parts that would leak into the exhaust valves and out the tailpipe... just a thought.. but i would grab a light and look behind the motor from under the hood and see if u can see where things are coming out of...

sLADe781 · #4 04-11-2005, 12:24 AM

Hey man, I am so sorry to hear about your car bro. There aint no shame in crying for her...I hope everything works out for you man....I feel your pain...

Igovert500 · #5 04-11-2005, 12:49 AM

Well first off, racing with a low brake pad and an exhaust leak aren't the worse things in teh world. As far as I figure, I'd guess neither had to do with whatever happened.

Start by waiting until it is light out, then checking all your fluids..see what is low. Then get under the car and see what you can see. Check all aspects of tranny, engine, oil pan, etc...look for obvious damage or leaks.

Also don't start your car under any circumstances, you may do more damage. If you cannot visually figure out what happened, it may be best to take it (get it towed) to a mechanic you trust to have it looked at. Whatever diagnosis you recieve, don't shell out money, before coming back on here and getting further advice.

Sorry to hear about your badluck...I know it's tough, but keep your head up, it'll work out.

pr0ject01 · #6 04-11-2005, 03:15 PM

Well , I took it up to my mechanic.. and he really didnt get a chance to look at it yet but he said it sounds like the engine. I think that im going to be sick...

pr0ject01 · #7 04-11-2005, 09:29 PM

Okay, ive been doing some research and heres the thing, this is IF my engine is blown.

I found a brand new stealth engine, rt.. for 3500, (500 less for what I bought my car for) also comes with a 5 year warranty.. and also back to 0 miles.. and also new lifters... etc.. Although, here is the thing. If I am gonna fork out 3500 dollars, instead of owning an RT? Should I just get a TT? I love my car to death, and dont want to get rid of her at all, although I would love to have a TT. Also on the other hand, I have already sunk so much money into my RT, New Clutch, New Front Axels, New Starter, New Rims, 2400 Watt System, Tinted Windows... and theres a few more just dont feel like listing everything. So plus the 4000 I paid for my car, i have 9,000 dollars sitting there easily. Have I already sunk too much money into her, or should I keep rebuilding the whole car, which in the long run will have her running perfect..

Do you guys see where i am coming from? Please help..

Twizted_3KGT · #8 04-11-2005, 09:42 PM

Oh this is no good, this is no good at all. Lets see, 6500 RPM in 3rd is about 90-95 mph right? If you shifted to 2nd instead of 4th, you would be trying to hit 12,000 RPM or so...which would throw rods, break valves/springs, not to mention the strain on the transmission from that. Now thats just assuming thats what happened, and when you say you may have hit 2nd instead of 4th, thats something there's no way you could miss it, you would know for sure if you mis-shifted.

The fluid out of the exhaust pipe could only be oil or coolant, since those are the only fluids that would have access to that path. With that thought, you could have blown a valve guide seal, or broken a valve.

Also on that note, Stealthee may be right. A mis-shift into 2nd from high 3rd could cause your timing belt to jump. Which in turn would cause piston-to-valve contact. And at those speeds contact would break the valves more likely than the piston, which would shoot around in there breaking seals allowing fluid to leak out the exhaust pipe via the exhaust valves. In this condition it may start again, which it did in your case, but it would only be causing more damage to the engine. Your "KRRIIIINNKKK" sound would then be your broken valves and damaged pistons and whatever else is damaged grinding and hitting eachother as you force the crankshaft to turn.

So if that last scenario is right, which would make the most sense according to your story, worst case you would be looking at a new head, and possibly new block (basically new engine). If it's not too damaged you might be able to bore it out, new pistons, crank...which would give you more HP and fix w/e is broken.

Keep your spirits up, its not the end of the world and you'll get through it.

For your sake I hope i'm wrong.

Twizted_3KGT · #9 04-11-2005, 09:48 PM

As for some advice if your engine is blown:

You'll never get back what you put into it already, so consider it lost. Now you can either spend almost as much as you paid for the car, and not be satisfied as it will still not be a TT. Or you can cut your losses, and part it out. Tranny should be ok, cat back, headers, intake, airbags ($$), body pieces, interior (leather would sell for a lot). You might be able to pull off getting what you paid for it.

If I was in your position...well can't say that cuz I would just rebuild the engine in my garage...but my advice to you would be the second choice.

Stealthee · #10 04-11-2005, 10:29 PM

If I were in your shoes I think I'd be looking into a TT swap. I mean if the engine is broke why not put a positive spin on things and use it as an excuse to gain a huge hp increase. Stock TT engines in a FWD 3s usually dyno around 260-270 to the wheels if I remember correctly. Thats at least 40 more h to the wheels than the factory rated crank hp which alot of us beleive is overated anyway. Good luck and I hope things work out for you.

pr0ject01 · #11 04-11-2005, 10:36 PM

Thank you guys for your help, and your concerns.. I really appreciate it. Although, until I know for a fact of whats wrong with my car, im gonna wait to make ANY decisions until then.. you know what I mean? I dont know though, it would be so hard to get rid of my car.. not to mention my first car...

Getsum3kgtsl · #12 04-12-2005, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by pr0ject01

as we were pushing.. there was a fluid coming out of my exaust.. drying as soon as it touched the ground. (btw no smoke or anything came from my engine).

Was it gas?

pr0ject01 · #13 04-12-2005, 09:08 AM

No, it wasnt gas.. but as soon as it touched the ground it dryed up, and once i got it into the parking lot, wow did it smell like dead rotting shyt...

Stealthee · #14 04-12-2005, 07:28 PM

I dunno, but the horrid smell sounds like it could be a fried ECU. Whatever it is good luck and keep us posted.

Gateway · #15 04-12-2005, 08:14 PM

if you buy an engine for a stealth for 3500 you should be shot. 1st of all, you can buy another stealth for not much more than that. second of all, you can buy an engine for much much less than that! for crying out loud you can buy a complete VR4 motor for $2400! (saw a japanese website selling one a few weeks back)

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