The cost of illegals

[Flatrater]

I found a link talking about the cost of heath care for illegals. Might be something to read when you have time.

http://www.vdare.com/rubenstein/050407_nd.htm


Here is a link for another one. This was his this in it.

Illegal immigration is also costing taxpayers. According to the Center for Immigration Studies, welfare payments, including food stamps, paid to illegal immigrants in Arizona cost $4,698,000, just in 2001.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/opinion/a...s/1451222.html


Of course the illegal Mexicans are a cheap source of labor for the compainies that hire them but the taxpayers are the ones that offset that cheap labor by paying for their mediical and welfare costs. If these companies paid the benfits that the illegals get they wouldn't be so cheap anymore.

[Twitch1]

If you lived in the Southwest, you'd know we hear and read this stuff all the time about how the illegals drain the resources. Couple hospitals actually closed in SO. Cal. due to cost burdens. Sad.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by Twitch1

If you lived in the Southwest, you'd know we hear and read this stuff all the time about how the illegals drain the resources. Couple hospitals actually closed in SO. Cal. due to cost burdens. Sad.

We've had to close a few emergency rooms, here in Arizona, because they could not afford to operate anymore, from people coming in, with no intention of paying, and yes, they were mostly illegals. They can't turn back people piece-meal, and ended-up turning everybody out.

Also, check this link to see both sides: http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2004/...in662587.shtml

Notice how Proposition 200, which is designed to lessen the benefits given to illegals, was voted on by half the Hispanic voting population, for those of you (narrow-mindedly) claiming racism.

[lamehonda]

Illegals are people too.

You guys are acting like they are vermin.

[Tehvisseeus]

They aren't vermin, but they don't belong in the US. If they want to be here then they should fill out the paperwork like a good deal of hispanics that I know, otherwise they are just abusing our system and making the hispanics that do do what theyre supposed to do look bad.

I currently live about an hour from the Mexican border so I can see all of the problems which illegal immigration brings. Right now there is, on average, a SWAT raid every night in my quaint little neck of the woods trying to break down the crack business that has started to spring up do to illegals smuggling it across the border. It pisses me off that there is an entire half of my town that I dont feel safe in because illegals have turned it into a slums.

Basically if they want the benefits of being in the US they need to do it by a legal means.

[Muscletang]

Originally Posted by lamehonda

Illegals are people too.

You guys are acting like they are vermin.

Well when you turn on your TV and see talk shows with illegals on there complaining that they aren't getting any benifits from our government and people are bending over backwards for them you get a little mad.

This may upset a few people but a couple of years back when that little girl was killed here by getting the wrong blood in a kidney transplant shouldn't of happened. If you don't remember an illegal six year old girl was brought up here because she needed a kidney transplant or she'd die. Her family put her in the hospital and the doctors gave her the wrong blood type during the operation and she died.

To me she shouldn't of got the kidney in the first place. I don't know how organ donors go but I'm pretty sure it's all in the U.S. Organs are taken from U.S. citizens and given to U.S. hospitals. I don't think organs from U.S. citizens go to Canadian hospitals. Anyway, I find it very wrong for an illegal to come up here and go taking things that, to me, belong to U.S. citizens. I'm sorry if this upsets somebody but a kidney is taken and it either goes to a U.S. citizen or an illegal then the illegal is out of luck.

Now if I'm wrong and organs are traded between the Canada, Mexico, and the U.S. then why did she come up here? Why didn't she just stay in Mexico and get her organ down there?

[lamehonda]

Let me put it this way:

If you wanted to be in the US and couldn't get in legally, would that stop you? I think not.

The media likes to show people complaining about everything so don't get mad at a few immigrants on the tv.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by lamehonda

Let me put it this way:

If you wanted to be in the US and couldn't get in legally, would that stop you? I think not.

The media likes to show people complaining about everything so don't get mad at a few immigrants on the tv.

Lamehonda if I couldn't get into the US legally yes I would of stopped there and when someplace else. Maybe New Zealand I heard they take anyone in and offer them everything that the US doesn't. I can say this because I am an immigrant who learned the english language and became a US citizen.

The US accepts many thousands of aliens yearly. Its not that hard to gain legal entry.

I work for a living and pay my taxes, pay for my medical no one is here to hand me anything. Everytime I go to the doctor or the hospital I have to pay no free ride for me or my family.

I have no problem with Mexicans coming here legally as long as they pay there bills and become hard working citizens who speak the english language.

[lamehonda]

How are they going to get to New Zealand? Travel costs money.

[Flatrater]

Originally Posted by lamehonda

How are they going to get to New Zealand? Travel costs money.

And you think these illegals come to the US for free?

[lamehonda]

I know that some of them get here for a lot cheaper than a plane ticket.

[fredjacksonsan]

Originally Posted by lamehonda

Illegals are people too.

You guys are acting like they are vermin.

Let me put it this way:

How about a person you don't know moves into your house without permission. He takes over a bedroom, eats your food, uses your shower, borrows the car without asking, and takes your money to pay for things he needs.

Would you want him out or not?

[lamehonda]

I don't have to share my house to share my country.

I am proud to live in a country where people really want to be.

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by lamehonda

Illegals are people too.

You guys are acting like they are vermin.

They're NOT vermin. Neither are murderers and child molesters. They're all people. People who have broken laws. Especially the coyotes who encourage illegals with false hopes, only to enslave them.

Murderers and Child molesters (probably) become who they are because of bad upbringing.

Coyotes and illegals become what they are, because of a horrible Mexican government.

Why the fuck is it that Americans are not only getting something taken away from them, but we get fucking blamed, not only for abuses against immigrants, but getting flack for wanting them out (or at least not coming in).

What illegals are costing the US:
http://www.cis.org/topics/costs.html

Basic facts, and numbers:
http://www.cis.org/topics/illegalimmigration.html

They abuse each other:
http://www.cis.org/articles/2002/back702.html

[fredjacksonsan]

Originally Posted by lamehonda

I don't have to share my house to share my country.

I am proud to live in a country where people really want to be.

But are you proud to live in a house where people really want to be?

I guess you didn't understand my comparison:

Country = house

Illegal immigrants = person moving into your house

Services & not paying taxes = your money, food, shower, car


Can't you see that someone moving into your house and stealing your possessions without permission is the same as people moving into the country and working without paying taxes, using public services, etc without permission?