H22a in 96 CX???

[97AccordEx]

Im about to buy a 96 civic cx and i wanted to know if i could swap and H22a-1 in it!?! If i cant im not gonna buy the car!

[Civic_D16Y5]

u can
jsut get the custom mounts and be sure to not have a/c and ass loads of torque

[exman98]

you also wont have room for power stearing

[97AccordEx]

why wont it be able to handle alot of torque, to much for the little chasis? power steering and ac are no biggy is there anything else i should watch for??? What makes the cx dif from like the dx or the other hatchbacks is it like the crappy model or the nicer more upgraded one?

[CivicSpoon]

The chassis will be able to handle the torque, I'm not sure what he ment. But I'm not sure if Ohio has emissions regulations, where you can't put an older engine in your car. So find out, or otherwise just play it safe and get a '96+ us engine or '97+ jdm engine. Some states just won't let you put an older engine in. You'll also need to get some axles, as the prelude ones won't work for your car. The CX is different in that it's the base model, just has less options available than the DX does.

[97AccordEx]

Ive checked, Ohio has no emissions regulations on swapping older enigines! So all im gonna need is some different axles and mounts and Im pretty much set on the swap?

[CivicSpoon]

You'll need an upgraded suspension also, at least some goo stiff springs and shocks or good coilovers. Then there's wiring, resistor box for injectors, cutting for the shifter, and cutting and welding (most likely) for the mounts.

[h23hatchswp]

Originally Posted by 97AccordEx

Ive checked, Ohio has no emissions regulations on swapping older enigines! So all im gonna need is some different axles and mounts and Im pretty much set on the swap?

If you go to JDMcustoms.com you will find they sell all the different honda engines and for pretty cheap. You can get a JDM H22a with all the stuff you will need to put into a civic for around $2700. The wiring harness, mounts, axles, shift linkage....plus it is free shipping and the engines have a 1 year warantee.

[exman98]

Originally Posted by CivicSpoon

You'll need an upgraded suspension also, at least some goo stiff springs and shocks or good coilovers. Then there's wiring, resistor box for injectors, cutting for the shifter, and cutting and welding (most likely) for the mounts.

VERY TRUE!!!!!
i think the h22 is more than 200lbs than what you alrady have.
that extra weight also sits a little diffrently so you wil need a new suspention set up. this may also let your car properly proportion the extra power and will put more power to the ground.

[GScivic7]

Originally Posted by exman98

VERY TRUE!!!!!
i think the h22 is more than 200lbs than what you alrady have.

VERY WRONG!!!!! Go read the H22 swap FAQ in the 5th gen forum

[97AccordEx]

I cant find that thread! My bad ... but if someone could help me out here, cause I keep hearin two different stories Id really appreciate it!

[GScivic7]

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=332296

[GScivic7]

the reason you'll want to upgrade your suspension is that the engine sits tilted a little towards the back. So it throws off the handling. Your stock suspension is enough to handle it going in a straight line and moderately through corners, but if you really want to be able to attack the corners you need a suspension set up that will allow you to do so. The suspension will also help put all that extra power to the ground.

[exman98]

you may be right on the weight think but i have read many articles form this forum and other places saying it is very much heavier.
this is one link from the AF sit, read down on the h22 section.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...ad.php?t=19176

also I knew it sit diffrently but i just could not remender in which direction. that is why i way a little vague.
GScivic7 thank you for the good info but i disagree on the wieght diffrences.

[GScivic7]

Originally Posted by exman98

you may be right on the weight think but i have read many articles form this forum and other places saying it is very much heavier.
this is one link from the AF sit, read down on the h22 section.
http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...ad.php?t=19176

You're a fucking moron. Click this link and read.

Originally Posted by GScivic7

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=332296

That's an updated guide. It doesn't weigh 200lbs more than any other B or D motor.

Reading>You

I'll make it even easier for you.

Originally Posted by H22 Swap Guide

The myths and truths about the Civic H22a swap. Some have said this motor is too big to fit, you need to move or cut the firewall, and the motor weighs any where from 180-220lbs more than a B-series. In a '92-'00 Civic (and in general, respectively) none of this information is true. First the motor is only slightly larger in size compared to the B-series motors. Next, the big myth of the massive weight everyone hears about. Does the motor weigh more than the D's and B's? Yes, it absolutely does. However, there is only a difference of 35-50lbs. Here is a link of someone who was nice enough to actually weight an h22a, b16a, and a d16: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=684550 Now you may be thinking, "well he didn't weigh the heads or intake manifolds, so how do you figure it doesn't weigh a lot more than just 35-50lbs?" Well. The answer is that it's quite obvious that an engine's head will weigh less than its short block. So if the short block of an H22a weighs only 19lbs more than the B16a short block, then you have to figure the heads will be of a similar weight difference.