Mad Crazy Idea!!!!!!

[Chuki_breath]

ok guys, this may seem like a stupid idea. Thats why im posting it. Ok you all know im saving for the ka-t setup. I have 2500 saved to date. BUT i was thinking, i could buy an s13 silvia sr20det front clip. IT HAS to be an s13 silvia so i could use the front end for a conversion. If i cant get that, then im not going sr. SO, when you order an sr20, do you get what they send or can you tell them specifically that you want a silvia front. I mean i would get a turbo engine and a front end all in one shot. I know the front end may be dinged dented and what not, im not worried about that. As long as there not mangled to hell and still usable, i can knock little shit out. PLUS this leaves me with an EXTRA ka lying around the house. So.....i thought that i could just do a little clean up job to that and just buy new pistons(and whatever else seems to be worn out), and just have a reliable ka-t that would be no greater than 8lbs of boost. I could throw that into my auto hatch, and cruise that as the daily driver. Nothing big and outstanding, just a reliable engine to run low low boost on.

My job is really boring, and gives you all the time in the world to think up random shit, so thats how i came up with this lol. I dunno it seems good to me. The ka-t prolly wouldnt be done for a while though. I want a ka-t so bad!!!! But a front end and an sr is about the same price as a ka-t. So i figured why not!!! Then the extra ka, i mean i dunno wtf to do!!! Tell me if i have officially gone retarded!!!!!! I know i made it sound so easy on here, but you get what im saying.

[sRscooby]

well, i emailed Jarco for info on the CA18DET, it'd cost $2100 for a front clip (also comes with an LSD! ) but they don't come with any body parts or headlights, it would cost about $900 more to get it with the complete front end they said

however, venus-auto has s13 front end conversions for $600!! i've asked for pics of one i could possibly get, so if it's good, i'll let you know if it's worth it

but ya, generally front clips do not come with body parts unless you pay extra, so for a sr20det front clip with body parts i'd imagine it'd cost around $3k, which isn't too far off the average ka-t kit

[nissanfanatic]

Its up to you man. Just lay out your goals, desires, and most of all, needs, and see what that leaves you with.

[240SXSlideStar]

The clips don't come with body parts anymore, they take off the fenders/hood/bumper/headlights/brackets because they can sell those seperatly for a little under a grand and still sell the clip for the same price.

[SHIFT_KA24DE]

doesn't sound bad at all.

so basically you've gone from a ka-t guy... to a sr-guy.

[Chuki_breath]

not at all!!!!!!! im definantly a ka-t guy. As i mentioned i still want a ka-t. But why not have both, but since they say that the front clips dont come with the body mods i dont know now. Ill have to do some more research. I just thought if i could get a silvia front with a turbo motor why the hell not do it!!! Cuz i want a silvia front bad, i hate the one-via look, i think hatches look better with flip ups. Then id have my ka left over after i swap the sr, to build up then put in my other ride. I mean just a minor ka-t setup. you know, like fmu, small turbo, not a major setup. Like i said, around 7-8 psi on the ka-t. Doing all that sounds like im getting more for my money, rather than just buying a fully rebuilt ka engine with mani and a dp. I mean id get a sr20(hopefully runs lol) with a front clip. So id have a performance enhancer (over stock ka) and a looks enhancer (because my personal preferance) all for the same price as bascially just a rebuilt ka engine, unless i have some one go down and pick up the ka rather than having it shipped. But still that would cost me some jack too.

I dont know, like i said it was just a random crazy idea that got me thinking. I still have to do some mass researching to see whats the best ins and outs. Just thought id run it by you guys to see what you think. Thanx for updating me on the bodyless clips. As i was reading a 3 year old SCC, so i thought i would get body panels.

[240SXSlideStar]

3-4 years ago, you have gotten all the body panels, but today, they smartened up and realizes they could make more money this way, if you do get body panels, they will be FUBAR.

[AWDSR20]

what is wrong with a liiitttel SR love!!! its light, happy revving motor, with a crappy t25 t that ONCE you swap it out to a T28, i will be the best motor ever...

[nissanfanatic]

The only problem I see is that if you still want the KA-T, once you buy the clip, that means start from scratch on the KA-T fund. But IDK.

[gogofast]

RB25DET swap $2000 shipped....OSAKA JDM MOTORS...

[nissanfanatic]

OSAKA is a ripoff unless you go to them in person.

Osaka Motors warning

[DWF Engineering]

I you have $2500 that is more than enough to get your KA-T running. You should be able to get the basic parts for around $1000. The blow off valve and intercooler are optional. My dad bought a 1986 Mustang GT Turbo (same as the 5.0 GT but with a 2.3L turbo 4 cylinder) a few months back and it had just a turbo w/ integral waste gate (which I visually verified) running 10 psi (so my dad said). The 1985.5 SVO used the same 2.3L block but ran something like 15 psi and was intercooled and had the blow off valve. I'd ask to take another look at the 'stang but its been sold and he now has a S2000 (grrrrr). Anyway, the moral to the whole Mustang tale is that unless you have a big, sluggish turbo or a lot of boost you don't need the blow off valve and without a lot of boost you don't have-to-have the intercooler either. Though with $2500 and some good shopping you should be able to get the whole package.

I have a good idea for the turbo scenario: instead of larger injectors, run an additional injector, spraying "into the wind" at the compressor inlet. Spraying upstream will help atomize the fuel so the drops aren't slamming into the compressor vanes and the evaporative cooling would lower the compressor outlet temperature. This isn't actually my idea, its the way the new Ford Cosworth Spec engines for CART are designed. You would need an additional injector controller or perhaps you could trigger the additional injector off one of the injector looms of the factory harness. You probably cannot yet afford this setup if you are going to buy the blow off valve and intercooler. However, the evaporative cooling of the fuel going through the compressor may outway the cooling of the intercooler. I'll be experimenting with this setup once I go KA-T style, but that will be some time from now. I'm determined to get into 13s naturally aspirated and on stock compression, then go turbo!

[sidewayzS13]

did that confuse anyone else?

[DWF Engineering]

What's confusing you, guy?

[orestes]

my opinion: its worthless to go ka-t if you are running only 5 psi because you dont have an intercooler. all that work for 5 psi? only if you are immediately going to start saving to get the boost higher.