Can it fit?

94ToyoCam · #1 03-28-2005, 03:00 PM

I'm looking into buying a 88-91 crx. I'm a new driver and i need a car that i can screw around in...dun wanna f^k *p my father's car. Does a

Ls/Vtech fit into a 88-91 crx(i've heard that these engines are quite powerfull with the swap and run 1/4 in low 14's high 13's)? I've read about how to do the swap(i'll prob get the head work done at a machine shop), but will it fit and what kind of tranny, ecu, etc...
thnx for any information.

--- · #2 03-28-2005, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 94ToyoCam

Does a

Ls/Vtech fit into a 88-91 crx

Yeah you could fit that phone in there no prob.

Greenblurr93 · #3 03-28-2005, 03:15 PM

ugh, i know your new... but the search button is your best friend here. as for what tranny to use, any b series tranny, and use the GSR ecu.

CivicSpoon · #4 03-28-2005, 03:31 PM

You're a new driver and want your own car so you don't mees up your fathers, yet you pick the least reliable option right off the bat. DO NOT get an LS/vtec! If you do I guarentee you'll mess up the engine within 3 months tops. I suggest you go with either a GS-R or LS/turbo.

Greenblurr93 · #5 03-28-2005, 03:36 PM

or gsr turbo.... hehe

balls to the wall....

94ToyoCam · #6 03-28-2005, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicSpoon

You're a new driver and want your own car so you don't mees up your fathers, yet you pick the least reliable option right off the bat. DO NOT get an LS/vtec! If you do I guarentee you'll mess up the engine within 3 months tops. I suggest you go with either a GS-R or LS/turbo.

I'm not that new of a driver...i have some skills

i just wanted to get a honda motor with some torque...i heard this is the torquiest one. As for reliability, is the engine really that bad?

CivicSpoon · #7 03-28-2005, 04:36 PM

It's not the torquiest, that'd probably be the H22a. But the H-series will be a pain in the ass to get in. The next one would probably be the F-series and CRV engines, and then the ITR engine.

And the LS/vtec is unreliable if you don't get it built correctly or if you ver rev the engine. With the vtec ECU you'd use, you'd be able to rev it higher than the LS bottom end should be rev'd. You can rev them pretty high, but the higher you rev the more likely you are to throw a rod and shoot a piston threw your cylinder walls.

94ToyoCam · #8 03-28-2005, 04:52 PM

i'm probably gonna end up racing with this motor... i found the information for the engine off this site http://www.c-speedracing.com/howto/lsvtec/lsvtec.php , with the upgraded ARP rod bolts do you think that this motor will still have a problem over revving?

94ToyoCam · #9 03-28-2005, 05:09 PM

i was reading around on some of your forums and it seems that the b18 is a better bang for the buck...maybe i'll check that out as well. Thank's for all of your input.

kris · #10 03-28-2005, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicSpoon

You're a new driver and want your own car so you don't mees up your fathers, yet you pick the least reliable option right off the bat. DO NOT get an LS/vtec! If you do I guarentee you'll mess up the engine within 3 months tops. I suggest you go with either a GS-R or LS/turbo.

Please do us all a favor, and stop posting information like that.

Twyztidmind · #11 03-30-2005, 12:21 AM

LS/Vtec is acually better then GSR because it has better compression as long as your not stupid and over rev the engine just because the ecu will let you. A guy at my local shop told me this he has had an LS/vtec turbo for over a year. He races it and has had no problems he just bought high performance rods and rod bolts.

CivicSpoon · #12 03-30-2005, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by kris

Please do us all a favor, and stop posting information like that.

Why? You think maybe you could give me an explanation as to why you say that instead of just making that comment. And maybe you should answer his question if you've got some info to give out on the subject, instead of trying to belittle me.

So you think it's a good idea for someone to get an LS/vtec, when they already said they wanted something of their own because they didn't want to mess up their father's car? I'm sorry maybe I'm thinking of this in a different way, but that gave me the impression that he would be driving the engine hard. And that was only reiterated by his new post where he says he's going to be racing it. I'm sorry but for someone who is new to Hondas and is still reading information on the engine, should not even consider it until they've read up on it enough. He didn't even know if it would fit in his car (that he doesn't even have yet). When he asked about reliability I said "And the LS/vtec is unreliable if you don't get it built correctly or if you ver rev the engine." Are you saying that is an incorrect statement? I'm not saying an LS/vtec can't be reliable, because it clearly can be done and last for a long time if taken care of and done properly. LS/vtec's are not a good starter engine for people who are new to it. Not to continue to pick on him or anything (and I hope he doesn't take offense, I'm just trying to clear some things up), but with a statement like this "...with the upgraded ARP rod bolts do you think that this motor will still have a problem over revving?"; clearly not enough research has been done on the subject to attempt it. I personally know a guy (friend of a close friend) who didn't know squat about it, did it and blew the thing up within a few weeks. He did exactly what I said could happen, he over reved it and threw a rod and pushed a piston through the cylinder wall. That is what happens when you mix lack of knowledge with a gung-ho attitude of "I need power so I'm just going to do it". If he does extensive research on it and finds out what he needs to do to do it right, then cool I wish him luck on it. But just wanting to do the first thing you hear about to get power is the wrong way to go about things, and every single person here will say the same thing.

94ToyoCam · #13 03-30-2005, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by CivicSpoon

Why? You think maybe you could give me an explanation as to why you say that instead of just making that comment. And maybe you should answer his question if you've got some info to give out on the subject, instead of trying to belittle me.

So you think it's a good idea for someone to get an LS/vtec, when they already said they wanted something of their own because they didn't want to mess up their father's car? I'm sorry maybe I'm thinking of this in a different way, but that gave me the impression that he would be driving the engine hard. And that was only reiterated by his new post where he says he's going to be racing it. I'm sorry but for someone who is new to Hondas and is still reading information on the engine, should not even consider it until they've read up on it enough. He didn't even know if it would fit in his car (that he doesn't even have yet). When he asked about reliability I said "And the LS/vtec is unreliable if you don't get it built correctly or if you ver rev the engine." Are you saying that is an incorrect statement? I'm not saying an LS/vtec can't be reliable, because it clearly can be done and last for a long time if taken care of and done properly. LS/vtec's are not a good starter engine for people who are new to it. Not to continue to pick on him or anything (and I hope he doesn't take offense, I'm just trying to clear some things up), but with a statement like this "...with the upgraded ARP rod bolts do you think that this motor will still have a problem over revving?"; clearly not enough research has been done on the subject to attempt it. I personally know a guy (friend of a close friend) who didn't know squat about it, did it and blew the thing up within a few weeks. He did exactly what I said could happen, he over reved it and threw a rod and pushed a piston through the cylinder wall. That is what happens when you mix lack of knowledge with a gung-ho attitude of "I need power so I'm just going to do it". If he does extensive research on it and finds out what he needs to do to do it right, then cool I wish him luck on it. But just wanting to do the first thing you hear about to get power is the wrong way to go about things, and every single person here will say the same thing.

I just came to this forum to find some infomation about a car that i was interesting in buying. I just realized that there are too many cars with integra engines in it so i'm currently looking into a prelude(always liked their looks better n e way). No need to get into a flame war civicspoon. Thanks for all of the info everyone.

CivicSpoon · #14 03-30-2005, 11:24 PM

I'm not trying to flame anyone. He just said I was wrong and I told him why I thought I was right. It's just a discussion. If someone does a search and finds this thread and I'm giving out incorrect info, I'd rather have it corrected. Or if I am right then I don't want someone thinking I'm incorrect and get misinformed that way. I'm not trying to start an argument, but when someone makes a smartass comment directed at me, then I'd like to know what was written to warrent that response.

SiZ · #15 03-31-2005, 12:49 PM

ARP rod and head bolts will help your LSVTEC a lot. Civicpoon in a sense is on the right track, but if he's here for information before he does anything, and searching and reading about it on his own, he's probably not going to just flob it together.

Don't buy a Gheylude though, they're pigs.

Civics are fun as hell to drive, especially 4th gens. funfunfun

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