I can't decide what I want...

--- · #1 03-23-2005, 02:52 PM

Some of you may remember that I used to own a 1990 Civic STD (70 hp base model) a few months ago. I sold it off, and bought a 1-owner Eagle Talon ESi...

Monday, the brakes on the Talon went out, and I rear-ended a ranger, ruining practically my entire front-end, so I am currently trying to sell the car (all it needs is a new front bumper, hood, hood clip/radiator cover, and headlights).

What I can't decide is...to go back to Honda, buy a B16 or B18, bolt on a turbo, and haul some ass...or buy another Talon or Eclipse turbo and bolt on a bigger turbo, FMIC, etc., etc...

Honda gas mileage and reliability > Eagle Talon/Mitsu. Eclipse's

Eagle Talon/Mitsu. Eclipse 400+ hp potential > Honda's 250-300ish...

Help me decide which one I want.

crx-treme · #2 03-23-2005, 02:59 PM

Honda

CivicSpoon · #3 03-23-2005, 03:00 PM

If you want speed then go with the Talon.
The Eclipse is a "stripper" car, at least in my area. My friend is very lucky to work at a Mitsu dealership, he gets to see how stripper chics every day during the summer.

Cuzco · #4 03-23-2005, 03:05 PM

Well has you have stated the Honda has better gas and reliablity while the power gains are greater with Mit and or Eagle. Personally, now I do not know where you live, but with gas prices they way they are I would go with Honda.

Is this a daily driver? If it is ask yourself if you will truly being using the full potential of the Mit or Eagle and how often? What good is having a 400+ hp car if you only use it 1/4 of the time and also can you afford the gas that goes along with it?

Either way whatever you decide I wish luck and lots of ardenaline charged fun.

--- · #5 03-23-2005, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cuzco

Well has you have stated the Honda has better gas and reliablity while the power gains are greater with Mit and or Eagle. Personally, now I do not know where you live, but with gas prices they way they are I would go with Honda.

Is this a daily driver? If it is ask yourself if you will truly being using the full potential of the Mit or Eagle and how often? What good is having a 400+ hp car if you only use it 1/4 of the time and also can you afford the gas that goes along with it?

Either way whatever you decide I wish luck and lots of ardenaline charged fun.

Yeah, the car is a daily driver and will be for the next 4-5 years...

I'm in Texas, and gas prices have done nothing but go up so I'm leaning toward the Honda right now...

CivicSpoon · #6 03-23-2005, 03:50 PM

Ummm... you're going to use almost as much gas with a honda as with a mitsu. With a turbo honda, you'd need to use a higher octane gas anyways so it will be pretty much just as expensive. When you do major modifications to a Honda, you're losing a big part of the reliability and gas mileage.

--- · #7 03-23-2005, 06:12 PM

I won't be doing any major mods like turbo for a couple of years at the least, the biggest mod I do anytime soon after buying the car would be an engine swap if anything.

88hatchzc · #8 03-23-2005, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ---

Yeah, the car is a daily driver and will be for the next 4-5 years...

I'm in Texas, and gas prices have done nothing but go up so I'm leaning toward the Honda right now...

just get a 92-95 hatch swap a h22 in it.........put a 100 shot on it......so its good on gas and have the nos for the speed......ive seen them little mods run low 13's

--- · #9 03-23-2005, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 88hatchzc

just get a 92-95 hatch swap a h22 in it.........put a 100 shot on it......so its good on gas and have the nos for the speed......ive seen them little mods run low 13's

If I got a Fifth gen it sure as hell wouldn't be a hatchback. And maybe an H22 swap, but never NOS or any kind of n2o. I despise that shit.

91civichatch2571 · #10 03-23-2005, 06:54 PM

the only way i would own a turbo dsm, would be if it was strictly a track car. Every (literally every) friend of mine that has owned a turbo dsm has had major tranny problems, headgasket probs, cracked heads, blocks.... i dunno man. props to you if youve had good luck with them, i just have grown not to trust them too much.

final word, honda reliability

dsm's

Edit: This is just my personal opinion, not trying to bash on dsm's

--- · #11 03-23-2005, 06:58 PM

Yeah, I've found a '89 CRX Si that I'm looking at. It has a new water pump and timing belt...the only damage on the car is on the roof, and the car is in a near-white primer. He wants $2,200 obo, so I'm going to attempt to talk him down. It has 180K miles on it, but I'm looking at swapping a B16 into it anyway...

What would you recommend as a price for the car if I am able to talk him down?

And also, where can I buy a B16 for a low price, but in good condition?

CivicSpoon · #12 03-23-2005, 07:31 PM

I'd offer him $1,500-1,700 for it. The roof will need to be fixed and the car will need to be painted, so that will bring the cost down.
For the engine, try www.hmotorsonline.com

--- · #13 03-23-2005, 07:44 PM

Ah thanks...

I'm looking at this right now:
30001 - B16A 88-91 (SiR I) Motor, Tranny, Computer
160Hp 111Trq 10.2 Compression (JDM)
$ 1250.00 Plus shipping and handling.

Besides the motor, tranny, and computer, what else is needed? Should I just go for the whole swap kit?

crv-tec · #14 03-23-2005, 08:19 PM

I belive you will need axels...

honda_luvr_2000 · #15 03-24-2005, 11:39 AM

yes u'll need axles, extra wire for the vtec, mount kit, and linkage. hasport.com has all of that for the swap.
the whole swap kit would be a good idea, it will illiminate most of the headaches of piecing together u'r own swap kit. if u look hard, u could prolly find a swap kit for cheaper than piecing one together.

also another thing to think about w/ the talon/eclipse vs. a civic; weight. the talon/eclipse has like 700+ lbs over a civic. so yeah it kinda needs that more power in order to be just as quick.

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