2004 Crank time... HELP!!!!

[jon8777]

I am having trouble with a 04', v6, manual tranny Tacoma with cranking. The dealer replaced a wiring harness to the fuel pump and fuel line under a recall.

Originally I was experiencing trouble with crank times ( 3-8 seconds, similar sound to a dead battery crank) when the under side of the truck was wet. The dealer fixed the problem, and it went away for about a month.

now the problems back....

Took the truck back to the dealer and the dealer called Toyota and the Tech's there said that a delayed start like that is "normal" (3-8 seconds) and did no actual work other than run the diag. and call Toyota.

Here is the write up from the dealer:

"checked fuel pressure - no bleed down engine
crank time is normal. 5x2 te v-6 engine only
has 1 signal on cam and crank shaft has to
turn double in order to put cam signal again.
called Toyota tech assistance, vehicle is
starting as designed."

I agree with cam having to align to complete the circuit and fire the engine, however I don’t not agree that it should take 3-8 seconds to align the cams and fire.

The other thing that leads to believe that there is a problem is that the dealership said that clutch pedal position can be affecting the start. I know there is a switch on the pedal that has to make contact for the motor to start and I know that my foot is to the floor on starts. ( pedal not depressed, no movement of motor etc.)

My question is 3 fold....

Does anyone have this problem of a long start (does not always happen)?

Does anyone know what the problem is?

Is this long crank cycle normal for the V6?

[plumber546]

Toyota Supports ASE Certification
EG042-04
Title:
INTERMITTENT EXTENDED OR
HARD" CRANKING
Models:
’03 – ’04 Tacoma (V6)
Technical Service
BULLETIN
September 20, 2004
Some 2003 – 2004 model year Tacoma (V6) vehicles may experience an intermittent
extended or hard engine cranking at startup. A revised engine wire harness and ground
point relocation is required to correct this condition.




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[plumber546]

I can send you the whole TSB if you would like thur e-mail, it is like a 10 page bulletin on it for 03/ 04

[jon8777]

Plumber546-

Thanks for the info. They replaced the harness, I know anythings possible, could the new harness be defective? Is there a specific wire/connection point that I can check on my own with the Fluke to verify a faulty wire?

you can pass along the Bul. [email protected]

Thanks

[plumber546]

I sent 2 PDF file 1 for the fuel and 1 for the engine wiring harness