drifter car

[Rick's69]

whats a good setup for a bug to be a drifter? engine size? carb size? is it too light? what would make a bug great for drifting? and is it a bad car for drifting?

[jermphil]

drifter?? like a burn out car?

[Rick's69]

a drift car like an 86 corolla gt-s twin cam.

[jermphil]

oh. learn something new everyday. i still don't quite know what you mean..but i was thinking you wanted to use a bug for burn out shows between friends..

[half_breed_333]

i'm doing the same thing i'm going to drift my 62 ragtop. its going to have a 1776 (when i can get a case and some other parts i have all the guts, heads, and cylinders) camber compensator, some wider front tires (4inches?) and a few other parts. but i still am wondering what else i should do. i guess i won't know till i drive it

[Rick's69]

good luck, if u find something that is helpful in drifting like a bore increase or smaller carbs or somethinkg that helps tell me. im having problems with understeering. if i turn quickly my front tires dont grip, theyre yokahama and theyre pretty wide. i guess i need more weight.

[jermphil]

what does drifting mean? i obviously have something totally different in mind.

[Rick's69]

drifting is a type of race where u try to make ur back wheels lose traction and coutersteer with the front wheels in the middle of a turn. get the idea?

[BoatCop]

Originally Posted by Rick's69

drifting is a type of race where u try to make ur back wheels lose traction and coutersteer with the front wheels in the middle of a turn. get the idea?

Not sure how well an air-cooled VW would work in this situation. All the weight is on the rear wheels, and the front end on these cars is very light. The front would break and lose traction long before the rear would.

[jermphil]

ok..that was what i was thinking then. it's a burn out car..essentially.

[Rick's69]

good point boat cop but i was thinking wide tires and maybe a jack and spare tire in front?

[half_breed_333]

well, you see, because all the weight is in the back, i need to make the rear a bit stiffer, i have done a lot of research, and have found that VW's can oversteer quite easily. because of it's setup, the front is quite soft, and the rear is easy to stiffen. the camber compensator i'm going to equip, will get rid of the rear tires from getting camber when i lift off the gas (a swingaxle flaw) and, it stiffens it up a lot. there are a few other changes i can make too
as for the spare, keep it in. also, one person who did uphill racing in his bug, said that when he was testing it, he found having the rear 1in higher than front, made it oversteer a lot. doing the opposite adds understeer
oh, the definition of the drift you put, is more like a powerslide, a drift, is actually getting all 4 wheels sliding, just before you enter a turn. after that, you have to control the slide all the way through it. that's why just before you enter the turn, you have to get as much weight as you can shifted forward, then while doing that, do a heel toe to get the rpms up. you turn hard and make the rear break, then countersteer a bit to keep it on course. well, that's from what i know, not that i've ever done it outside of Gran Turismo 3. hahaha