Tuners vs. Rich 360 owners

[TunerTeg]

I was just in a argument about how I was stupid because I would take a Supra over a 360. I think the only true racer cars are the ones you modified not $150,000+ stock cars. Whether it be tuner or muscle cars. I just wanted to know the question: Would you consider a Tuner car or a top end car such as a 360 Modena a race car?

[knorwj]

No matter how much you tune a supra it will never be a ferrari. yes you may make it faster or maybe handle better but like I said its still no ferrari.
don't get me wrong a supra is an amazing car but whatever.

I think a better comparison would be the people who tune civics until they are oh i dunno comparable in speed to say a 911. now big thumbs up for doing that but i think i'd still rather have the 911 (then tune that maybe) At the end of the day you still drive a civic... I mean i would love to tune a car but i would never say it was better than a high end sports car. there are more things than speed that make a car better.

[GScivic7]

so the Geo Metro that a friend and I cut the springs 4 inches on, welded on 2.5" piping with no cat, resonator, or muffler, painted silver flames with blue tips and cut up the hood and made our own hood scoop for is a true race car?

True race cars aren't modded ones, they are the cars that you actually race with. Whether it be drag, auto-x, track or rally. Any car can be a true race car IMO, including the Metro we riced out.

[MexSiR]

No Honda, even a modified NSX or s2000 will be comparable to a Ferrari 360.

Its just different leagues of cars. Hondas are very good economy cars, and they produce very good sport oriented cars, but even if you can beat a Ferrari in any number figures you will never be close to the sensation of owning one.

[Gohan Ryu]

I think it all depends whatever the rich dudes passion is - exotic European supercars are one passion, fully restored classic muscle cars are another passion, but, uhhh, modifying a Honda...not too many millionaires have a passion for that. They leave that up to us poor dudes.

[Raz_Kaz]

Originally Posted by TunerTeg

I was just in a argument about how I was stupid because I would take a Supra over a 360. I think the only true racer cars are the ones you modified not $150,000+ stock cars. Whether it be tuner or muscle cars. I just wanted to know the question: Would you consider a Tuner car or a top end car such as a 360 Modena a race car?

Gee, where have I seen this before?





F&F!!!!!

[knorwj]

just to clarify I wasn't really specifing a race car in my post I was just trying to point out that there is alot more to the full driving experience than how fast it goes. I mean personally when I buy a car one of the biggest parts for me is the interior. I mean think about it what part do you see most? the interior. Other things that make a great car are styling, power, handleing, reliability, etc. Not just how fast I can get from point A to point B.

So with that in mind, yes I think the ferrari is a better car than a tuned supra.

[MexSiR]

Originally Posted by Gohan Ryu

I think it all depends whatever the rich dudes passion is - exotic European supercars are one passion, fully restored classic muscle cars are another passion, but, uhhh, modifying a Honda...not too many millionaires have a passion for that. They leave that up to us poor dudes.

Hahha...exactly

If we were rich, we wouldnt be here talking about this shit, and modifying a Honda.

[wonword]

To tell you the truth I would rather have that Supra in the F&F than that Ferrari in that movie. I'm saying if I was given the amount of money to buy a Ferrari, i'd rather get a Supra and put that amount of money into it. I hate it when rich people just buy there cars fast and dont know how or why it's fast, I'd much rather make a Supra fast with installing performance parts myself.

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by wonword

To tell you the truth I would rather have that Supra in the F&F than that Ferrari in that movie. I'm saying if I was given the amount of money to buy a Ferrari, i'd rather get a Supra and put that amount of money into it. I hate it when rich people just buy there cars fast and dont know how or why it's fast, I'd much rather make a Supra fast with installing performance parts myself.

You are assuming that the average wealthy person knows nothing about cars. You may be right some wealthy people don't know much about cars, but it goes that same way on the flip side. A lot of people who tune Hondas, Toyotas etc know little about their cars as well, they just take it to a shop and say I want it to do this or that. If you were to get a supra would you know enough about the car to do the mods your self? There are a lot of car enthusiasts that come into a lot of money and buy cars like Ferraris and Porsches etc, they know a thing or two about them and that is why they bought it, not because of the status symbol. Some buy them because they know that there is superior engineering and quality behind them versus the average automobile.

[NISSANSPDR]

I think I consider myself...you can take a car and modify it to hell and back...problem then is...your reliability is going down more and more...it becomes less streetable...but you take say a Ford GT...that car is quick as hell, looks good, and handles/brakes amazingly. What are you going to do? Put a 200shot of Nitrous on it? Are you insane? (Dont answer that)

Good thing about top end cars is that they are fast and dont need alot of mods or need no mods to be wicked quick

[TatII]

Originally Posted by MexSiR

No Honda, even a modified NSX or s2000 will be comparable to a Ferrari 360.

Its just different leagues of cars. Hondas are very good economy cars, and they produce very good sport oriented cars, but even if you can beat a Ferrari in any number figures you will never be close to the sensation of owning one.

i disagree. the NSX is indeed very comparable to the F360 modena. the NSX S Zero can lap around the same as the a modena, and not to mention the almost all carbon fiber NSX-R will practically run circles around the F360.

the NSX is no econo box, it was designed to be a exotic car from the get go, in its initial release it was faster then rival ferraris and porsches. the only problem was when the europeans caught up the NSX sorta fell behind and got outdated. but the body is still contructed out of full aluminum the whole car is hand assembled.

the japanese NSX's all weights under 3000 lbs, and the NSX-R weights a amazingly low 2700 lbs.

you see a NSX on the street, it stands out like crazy. its no lambo but its definitly compariable to a F360 modena.

[kman10587]

You can make a Supra, STi, Evo, or RX-7 just as fast as any supercar for much less money. The difference is that you have no warranty, a loud and bumpy ride, a crappy interior with fewer amenities, and less of a status symbol. If all that is worth the extra 100 grand to you, then go with the Ferrari. To me, it isn't.

[drunken monkey]

one thing i find funny about these kind of discussions is that every now and then, someone will say something along the lines of that for less money, they can get a car as fast as the ferrarri.....
completely missing the point that if the guy who has a ferrari wanted to, he could do exactly the same thing.

the point is, he has the money.
he wants a ferrari.
let's say you wanted to have fried chicken.
you're not going to go and get vegetarian meat subsitute are you?
it might look the same, it might taste the same but well.... there's more to it than just looks and taste.

it's not even about speed.
if i were to get a ferrari, it would be a lowly 246 dino.
not fast, not the most reliable car in the world but that's not the point.
i just want one.
what you would get means absolutely zilch to me.

[aznxthuggie]

i'd rather get a ferrari over a supra

if i was rich i probably wouldn't be buying japanese cars (unless they're rare n etc), and stick with the fast exotic euro cars

i also agree that the modena isn't the end all to sportscars

the nsx s zero/r will probably beat it, and im sure there are some other cars out there that can do the same