Boosting a 94 Civic w/swapped B16A

[94DXSiR]

I have a 94 Civic DX w/ a swapped B16A, and I was just wondering a few things.
Yes as you might read in my sig I have the AEM coil air intake and Greddy Header on already, but I got those free with the swap, and I already know those are going to have to be gotten rid of, but hey, I got them for free and I'll probally end up selling them and making a little, cant complain right? But anyways...
I have read on a site called www.turbokits.com, their kits for my year car and engine, now I know they are a little pricey, but Ive got the cash for it, but can anyone tell me if they are reliable for what they claim to come with, and I am not looking for huge gains, a simple 6-8 PSI would be enough for me. I am mostly interested in the TSI Ex Turbo Kit, and the FMAX turbo kit because I know the rev hard ones are for off road use only and the same can be said for the DRAG tubro kit. I am really looking for opinions, or unless you want to just tell me Im a idiot that would be alright too if I have it comimg. Any help would be appreciated.

[CivicSpoon]

When the kits say that they're for off road use only, it just means that they're not carb/emissions legal. So if you don't have emissions tests in your state, then any kit will work. The only problem I see with the TSI kit, it that it comes with a T25. That tubo will be good for what you want (it spools fast too), but if you're going to end up building you engine later on and turning up the boost then you'd be better off with something else. Me personally, I'd go with the Drag kit (I also don't have to deal with emissions though). I've seen some real nice gains from that kit. There's also a dealer for them that is selling the complete kit for $2,600 shipped over at Honda-tech. So if you're a member of that site, you might want to look into that. Here's a link: http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=981195 and here's Drag's official web site http://www.dragturbokits.com.

[94DXSiR]

Thank you for the info, but just a few retorts.
I still cant go with the Drag kit, because I am utterly blessed with being born in Cali, in which I will be headed back to here in time once my tour here is done, navy and all. But as for building up my car, I am probally not, if I do I will do it on another car. I already have plans to make another civic, or CRX for my full on dragger in which I will try to get the car ready for a higher boost level.

But simply for my civic I should have said this eariler, my only plans for it really is a daily driver, but I want to have it able to have some power behind it but keep it reliable. Money is not much of an issue, the navy pays for most everything I have, so all my paychecks are all profit with nearly zilch for bills, so I need something to spend my money on.

So now my question, would that TSI turbo kit be good for what I want since I am not going to build it up too extensively, sorry if you said it clear as day a moment ago, im just not sure since I am new to this, its my first car I have been really working on, and I want to start out on a good foot and have something fun to drive and occassionally race. And again thank you for the info.

[CivicSpoon]

I gotcha now, I saw your profile said Maryland, so I wasn't sure about the emissions thing. But if you're just going straight bolt-on kit then the TSI kit should be fine. My friend had the same turbo on his built h22 (prelude motor), so it lagged quite a bit because he lowered the compression so much. But on a stock block, it will spool real quick and you'll have power almost right off the bat.
But as for the full kit, I don't have any knowledge of that company. The only place I've seen them is on that site. But if you're too sketched out to buy from them, you might want to consider a Greddy kit. I know they're carb legal (think there are some upgrades that will make them non-legal). But I know a guy who's running one of their kits on his b16a, and it definently puts the power to the ground (until he blew his motor). But then again, you'd have to buy the intercooler seperately with the Greddy kit; where it comes with the TSI one.

[civickiller]

that turbo is so small. youll lose it top end with a b16. t25 damn.

idk how your friend with an h22a said a t25 turbo lagged so much in his motor. no fucking way that turbo lagged with a h22.

is the tsi kit carb legal ?

[turboEKhatch]

Originally Posted by CivicSpoon

it lagged quite a bit because he lowered the compression so much

Biggest crock 'o shit I ever heard. Compression doesn't have JACK to do with how quick your turbo spools.

[94DXSiR]

Just a small question civickiller,
If the T25 turbo is small, would it be worth it to pay the little extra to upgrade to a T28 Dual Ball Bearing Turbo instead? And remember please, this car is suppose to be a daily driver, im not looking to blow this motor anytime soon or reach the 190 MPH mark? Just something fun to drive but have a little ass behind it.

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by civickiller

idk how your friend with an h22a said a t25 turbo lagged so much in his motor. no fucking way that turbo lagged with a h22.

I'm a complete moron. That's not what I ment to say at all. I ment to say that it shitted out performance wise. Damn I have to pay more attention to what I'm writing. The turbo spooled quick with his setup, but the power dropped off before he even hit vtec (somewhere around 6500rpms). He had it tuned to 16psi with AEM EMS, and still only got 200whp but around 260tq. A bigger turbo would have been a lot better for his setup, wouldn't have spooled as quickly but would have made power better on the high end. Though another problem was that he was using a huge Evo 8 intercooler, so it was jsut way too big for that tiny turbo.
And again with turboEKhatch's comments... I messed up with what I ment to say. I ment that with the higher compression, he would have made better use of the power available than with an engine with lower compression. He wouldn't have had to use as much boost to get to the same whp, and probably would have been able to get a little more out of it.
Me > I'm sorry everyone, I seriously need to think more about what I'm trying to say before I write.

[civickiller]

a t3 even though its still small. would be better than both of those. if its a choice between the t25 and the t28. i woudl get the t28

[94DXSiR]

Um, forgive me if I screwed this one up, um, wouldnt a T3 turbo be smaller than a T28 turbo? Or is there just something I am missing here? And I am willing to bet I am, so please forgive the newb here... :/

[CivicSpoon]

Nope, the T28 is smaller than the T3.