BMW vs Benz

[publicenemy137]

I'm sure there has been these threads before, but I'm talking about current models. Which company do you like more generally? Do you desire the power of the M or the AMG series?

I personally like BMW more, I like the design of the cars more and the M3 is just hot. I don't like benz's new designs at all, like the SLK or CLK. I do like the new SL65, but as not top of the line models but the bottom to middle, I think BMW's are better.

[CanucksRT]

BMW, for me, MB's vehicles just look so basic to me (mostly the C-Class), and their front ends are kinda ugly, Bimmers win in the looks department.

I like MB's convertibles much better, and I do like AMG just a little more than the M cars, but I still like BMW better overall.

[MexSiR]

3 Series is better than C class.

M3 is better than AMG C.

SLK is right up there with Z4.

7 Series is pimper than SL600.

6 series kinda sucks.

Mercedes has cars with more balls defenitely, SL55 Mercedes Mclaren...12 and 11 second 1/4 mile cars...

[crayzayjay]

BM for sport, MB for cruising.

[kman10587]

BMW without a doubt, and it will remain that way at least until Mercedes-Benz starts offering manual transmissions on their performance models.

[Jimster]

Basically, BMW's are for the sporting driver, Mercedes for the customer looking for something luxurious with a few small hints of sportiness.

[DinanM3_S2]

BMW... They really are far better driver's cars.

The C-Class is far inferior to the 3-Series. For anyone even slightly interested in the performance of their car, the 3-series is a no brainer. Its one of the most loved cars ever made, and the C Class is one of the biggest let downs ever.

I like the new SLK, but it costs alot more then the Z4, so we'll have to compare them when the new Z4 based M Roadster comes out (and it will).

I like the E60 5-Series more then the E-Class, and I like the E39 ALOT more.

The S-Class is a stereotypical big luxury sedan, and does that well. I don't like the 7-Series's IDrive at all, nor the 7's styling, but there is a new 7-Series coming out as a 2006 model, and it has better styling (IMO) and an "improved IDrive system."

I like the 6-Series more then the CL or CLK class. Some of the best styling on a Chris Bangle car yet.

And now the best part, M v. AMG.
-The M3 is better then the C55 in pretty much all ways except # of doors and power (which is canceled out by its weight). It handles better, looks better, is better.
-The new M5 is a amazing, its a sedan that they compared to the 997 S as a sports car. It blows the E55 and CLS55 away. Best transmission in a road car, awesome engine, awesome handling, I can't wait to drive one.
-The new M6 is the M5 with 2 doors and less weight.
Oh, and AMG makes all automatics...

I don't like the SL65 and CL65 because I hear that they have TOO much torque for a road car. The SL55 however is probably one of the best roadsters ever made. The SLR is too much of a GT, not enough of a supercar.

I almost forgot, BMW also made the engine for the McLaren F1.

BMWs are cars that you want to drive, Benz's are cars that you want to be driven in.

[del]

here's my opinions. i like some of one over the other and vice versa.

3 series > C class
E class > 5 series
7 series > S class
SLK > Z4
SL > Z8
X5 > ML
6 series > CL (although CL65 and M6 is a toss up)
CLS > bmw has no match up for this one so it seems.
then the slr which just speaks for itself.

overall i think i'm more a mercedes type of guy in the end. some of the best styling and some incredibly powerful engines. which i can't say for bmw (on styling).

[gti1689]

dinanM3_S2 isn't biased


3 series > c-class
e-class > 5-series
s-class > 7-series
slk > z4
6-series > cl (minus the cl65 )
x5 > current ml
new ml (based on what i saw at the auto show) > current x5


m3 > c55 (close, but m3 is superior)
m3 = clk55
e55 = m5 (withhold judgement till both are tested at same time).
s600/s65 > 760
sl65 > m6
sl55 = m6
slk55 (no direct competitor)
x5 4.8si (or whateer it's called-no direct competitior)


i like bmw and benz. u need to try both in order to understand them. i guys put down the amg's until they blow by u at the stop light...BUT u'll get em in the twisties.


E55 battle w/M5 will be exiting. i hear mercedes might stuff in a bigger engine (they ovbiously don't like handling) in order to compete w/the m5 (could also go NA route).

[DinanM3_S2]

Originally Posted by gti1689

dinanM3_S2 isn't biased

Fine, I'll say something nice about Benz... They do make a good engine. They are great at forced induction, it will just cost you your 1st child...

Originally Posted by del

CLS > bmw has no match up for this one so it seems.

I believe the CLS "4 door coupe" is considered to be competition to the 5-Series (even though the E-Class is too). One of the magazines (top gear, EVO, CAR, not sure) compared the E60 M5 to the CLS55.

Edit: I just wanted to add something I just found. http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbul...d.php?t=372772

Say hi to a 400hp 4.0 M3 The C55 has NOTHING on this car.

[kman10587]

The CLS isn't anywhere near as coupish as the RX-8, which has four doors and came out before the CLS did. So I don't think they should be making that claim

[gti1689]

dinanM3_S2: lol, the new m3 will be a beast. can't wait to see if m treatment will make it look better, but you're right, the c55 is no match.

not sure what the cls is supposed to be, but it looks nice

[mason_RsX]

Originally Posted by DinanM3_S2

BMW... They really are far better driver's cars.

Dinan I would like you to just for one post say BMW sucks and Mercedes rules the German car kingdom and go all down the post saying how bmw cars are awful...get everyone just shocked at ur post, then at the end say "psyche"

In terms of BMW vs Mercedes even the recent cars highlight the philosophical differences in the companies. Mercedes are there to look nice, and to be nice on paper and stats. they are for the appearance... BMW's aren't for the stat sheet, their for the performance, handling and driving excellence, BMW gets really into driving

Its a shame though that BMW is inadvertantly being pulled away from this. With the 320i SOME people who dont appreciate bmw's are now buying them for appearance, and to say "look I have a beamer" and I spelt bimmer wrong on purpose to make a statement about the ppl who would say it

[drunken monkey]

earlier 4 door coupes include the rover p5b coupe of 1963.
perhaps that's why the guys at mazda just call theirs A four door coupe instead of THE FIRST four door coupe; they did their homework....

anyway.
my biggest gripe with the AMG cars is that at the top end of the spectrum, they are next to pointless.
AMG (and brabus as well) have said that there doesn't exist a tyre that can handle the full potential of their engines, hence the limit of 186(?) mph and the heavy handed computer aids.

[NerveAgent]

BMW drivers car.
Mec..car's driver?