b18c1 vs h22a Choose??

[Theos]

I'm deciding on what engine to swap out for my 97 civic coupe. I know the b18c1 which is from a typeR integra puts out 210hp, but so does the h22a. I know any B series engine is more easily moddified and tuned, but the h22a is a "beefier" engine. Which would you get if you were in my spot? Thanks.

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[superbluecivicsi]

search.

[blacksol28]

The b18c1 is the GSR motor, the ITR motor is the b18c5. And to answer your question it depends on what your plans are if your going turbo id go b series.A h22 in a civic is a tight fit to begin with its tricky trying to shoehorn a turbo in there too. It can be done though my friend had a h22 turbo in his 93 hatch for 2 minutes before his motor went. But if you are not looking to go past the motor swap the h22 is cheaper.

[CivicSpoon]

The h22a engine may be cheaper, but you'll still spend just as much as the ITR (maybe a little more) because of all the parts you need to buy to get it in.

[blacksol28]

The h22a engine may be cheaper, but you'll still spend just as much as the ITR (maybe a little more) because of all the parts you need to buy to get it in.

That is a good point. There are many things to consider before you do a swap. Do your research so you get what you want and dont F it up.

[civickirb]

i went with h22a in my civic its not that hard... well its tough but it just takes time...i love my h22a pulls hard..i raced a b18c5 and walked about 3 1/2 cars so ur choice.. o yeah vtec in a h22a man my dynos show a 24 horse gain when i hit vtec....

[BlazeD0ut06]

to turbo or not to turbo is the question...
there r people riding with h22turbo but i think it will be heavier onthe pocket as opposed to turboing a gsr..
some people might bring int he weight factor of h22 over b18c1..but it really isn;t that much heavier...

in short if u wanna do str8 runs or on the highway,,h22 is good...
but for those and everything else i would go with b18c1...

search is ur friend as u dunno what motor comes in what car...

[V T E C H]

I would go b18c5 but thats just me. And as for HP, i belive that the b18c5 has 195 as does the Prelude, i could be mistaken.

[projectgsr]

The JDM versions of both motors have more than 195 hp. I'm trying to decide myself which one I want to put in my GSR 2dr. I'll probably just stick to a B series to eliminate the headache of having to modify my engine bay. But I will give the H22 credit.

[SOHCivic]

depends if u plan on turbocharging your engine...go with the b18c1 because it has a better compression ratio. if you want the naturally aspirated way go with the H22a4...thats my opinion.

[CivicSpoon]

Originally Posted by SOHCivic

depends if u plan on turbocharging your engine...go with the b18c1 because it has a better compression ratio.

No it doesn't. The JDM B18c and JDM H22a both have a 10.6:1 compression ratio, the USDM B18c1 has 10.1:1 and the USDM H22a has 10:1.

[94PreludeJDM]

Originally Posted by projectgsr

The JDM versions of both motors have more than 195 hp.

Actually the JDM H22 has 200hp. I don't know the specs, but I'd imagine the H22 has more torque than the b series engine, and torque is always nice to have. Like others have said, it really depends on your future plans for the car, as well as what you want to do with the car (drag, road race, auto x, etc.)

[GudeCiv]

the h22 is probably not worth the money, althou i considered it myself, and i hesitate to say that b/c i almost did it ... the jdm b18c itr motor has 200 hp (worth the money, it pulls madly, i personally kno) , the usdm itr has 185-195 hp..but dont turbo the jdm itr unless u get new pistons, the compression is too high; which is most likely tru of the usdm itr motor as well. but, once you do anything to the itr motor, its value will drop. the usdm gsr motor has 170-185; its jdm counterpart has roughly 185. a gsr would be fun to trubo. if u want turbo, u can run 10's w/a b16 thts turbo'd... and built fer turbo; or i'd consider goin w/a b20 (or dif. spin on tht ls vtec) fer turbo. if u want all motor: u can try the h22. but i'd go w/tha jdm b18c gsr motor unless ur looking to put big bucks into the jdm itr motor (which is already "race built" from factory) good luck motor shoppin

[95whitehb]

that was from me sorry fer tha diff. name ^^^^ someone else was using my comp. and never signed off!

[GudeCiv]

Originally Posted by 95whitehb

that was from me sorry fer tha diff. name ^^^^ someone else was using my comp. and never signed off!

That's right, I'm sorry I didnt sign off your comp laura. That is one hell of a response to his quesitons, and I second everyhting she said. She does know personally since we swapped it in her EG about 2 weeks ago. The ITR is expensive, but well worth the money many fold, if you are unhappy wiht your results, it is a simple swap out even wiht one person and a couple of hours. Also, you can sell the thing for as much as you spent on it to another person wanting an engine with such status. The H22 does have its torque, but its a headache i presume, and its worth crap if you are unhappy with it. Also the H22 has much less available parts, esp variety. So even a b18c form the SIR-G integra would be a great desision and a lot less hurtful in the pocket book.