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| 2nd Gen RX-7 Twin Turbo |
   
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8 | 14.29% |
| 2nd or 3rd Gen Supra Twin-Turbo |
  
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27 | 48.21% |
| '91 or '92 MR-2 Turbo |
  
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12 | 21.43% |
| Other |
  
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9 | 16.07% |
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#1
03-21-2002, 08:07 AM
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Fast Used Car! What should I Do?
Well, I'm getting a car pretty soon (couple of months). I need to start thinking about what it can be. I was looking at a 2nd gen RX-7 Twin Turbo, or Supra Twin Turbo. Or maybe even an MR-2 Turbo. Or I'm welcome to any other suggestions you have. I'm looking to make it to where I can embarass any punk in a Civic who thinks he's hot sh*t. Not to say that anyone who drives a Civic is bad, but most of them are. Thanks!
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03-21-2002, 10:34 AM
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Rx-7s are not very reliable , so i won't suggest that . MR2s are nice but only 2 seats and small trunk , and supra has a bulletproof engine if you don't want to overdo it , it can drive 500 hp at the wheels daily... So my suggestion is MR2 if you can get over the small trunk and 2 seats then it's very nice car , and not that common... If you want the extra two seats and trunk and a bigger engine then go for the Supra... Anyway if this is gonna be your first car , i won't suggest any of those , because you'll probably hate pepole talking like that , everybody who gets first car hates that talk , but i think you shouldn't get a powerful car as the first one , and probably not RWD... I know that those are the most fun , but they require a bit expierience if you want to control the power and be able to us it SAFELY...
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03-21-2002, 02:36 PM
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Well my vote would lie in a Porsche 944 Turbo
Coming in at around $9,000 its the best deal & most underappreciated sports car of all time. Its got nice specs as well: 220 hp 0-60 6.0 seconds 1/4 mile 14.6 Top speed 155mph Skidpad - 0.90g 20 mpg Perfect 50/50 weight distribution plus modz are pretty cheap and it will only take about $2k to boost the hp to around 320 or so and pull the 0-60 down into the low 5's - high 4's not too bad for a sub-$10k car  good luck in your car search :sun:
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03-21-2002, 04:22 PM
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03-21-2002, 04:24 PM
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Well, first of all, how much cash have you got? Because bottom line thats all that really matters. Now let's see.
Second gen Rx-7 Turbo II, (hmmm, just as a side note I'm pretty sure the Turbo II was actually the 3rd gen, could be wrong though.) Let's see, the turbo II is literally my favourite car ever built, hell, I'd take one over an FD if they were both in equal condition and i could get even half the cash difference. The rotorary engine is by far the best engine type there is from a performance outlook. However, from a daily driving and money outlook, one of the worst. A stock 13b will only last about 90,000 miles tops before it needs a full, and i mean COMPLETE, rebuild. If you start putting on extras and uping the boost your probably gonna drop it down to about 75,000 miles before you need to rebuild. Unfortunately an engine rebuild kit, even bought on E-Bay from revolution rotary costs about $1500 American. That doesn't include labour fees for wherever you get it done, which could run you quite abit seeing as how it could take upwards of 10-20 hours worth of work to do depending on the shop. If they charge you like $40.00 and hour thats like another $500 or more. So Unless you've got a lot of cash for maintenence, I would not recomend an Rx-7 as a first vehicle. Whats next, a supra? Hmmmm, very nice car. Like tom already said they have a lot of head room to work with as far as power handling without costing a lot for maintence. You could probably get around 350+ with only like I/H/E. Add a turbo to the mix and youve got a lot more then that. The main problem with this is that Supras aren't very common, and are probably the most exspensive of the cars listed here(maybe not the 2nd gen, but the 3rd gen.) Over all a very good car. One of Japan's best for drag racing. Here your main concern is finding one and then affording it. And finally number 3, the MR2. Ew, very pretty little cars. Can be made very fast too. Hell, the denzosard supra is powered by the MR2's 4 cyclinder and it pushes like 1000 HP or more. However, theres one key difference between a supra with an MR2's engine, and an actual MR2, and that's where the engine is. Ya see MR2's are MID-Engine, Rear-wheel drive. That means that instead of having that big mss of steel called an engine up front in the nose of the car like in most vehicles. What difference does this mean for racing? Not much if all you plan on doing is drag racing, hell if anything the fact that the engines over the rear wheels would help increase traction and therefore give you better launches. However, if you ever plan on turning in your car at an even somewhat higher then normal speed, then don't get an MR2 because you will not be able to control it. I don't care how good of a driver you might think you are or how much you plan on practicing. A Mid-engine car is not something you should get as a first vehicle.(especially a 91 or 92, they were even more sensitive then the ones after them). Well, there ya go. Personally I'd suggest looking for a second gen supra, the Rx-7 Is rather high maintence for a first car, and I just don't think you'd be wise to get an MR2(no offense to you, but you want at least a good few years of driving experience before taking on a mid-engine rear-wheel drive car.) Hope I helped.
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03-21-2002, 08:27 PM
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looks like its been covered, but my little advice is ask about people that have these cars, and find specs on 'em
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03-21-2002, 08:52 PM
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ive always wanted an mr2, but never got one cuz the 2 seat issue. plus i gotta have a nice sound system, and it aint fitting in no mr2!
looked at a 300zx? can be had fairly cheaply, i once found a 90 2 seater turbo 300zx for sale in good condition for $8000. im stupid for not buying it.
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03-22-2002, 01:45 PM
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Well depending on where you live, here in New Zealand we can pick up a Skyline GTS4 for around that price, manual coupe.
0-60 5.8 sec 14.4 1/4 4wd turbo charged With a few minor mods ie: front mount intercooler, turbo, injectors, ecu pod, exhuast done right very low 12's in 1/4.
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04-02-2002, 01:34 PM
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what about the 3rd gen RX7 thats cheaper than a 3rd gen supra ??
rotaries are a pin in the maintenance department
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05-07-2002, 03:48 PM
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YOUR ALL MORONS!! FIST OFF THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A TWIN TURBO 2NG GENERATION RX-7(UNLESS SOMEONE DID AN ENGINE TRANSPLANT). I KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE ONE. THE 2 IN TURBO II DOES NOT MEAN THAT IT'S A TWIN TURBO!!! THE THIRD GENERATION RX-7S ARE THE TWIN TURBOS. SECONDLY YOU'LL BUY AN RX-7 IF YOUR WANT A RELIABLE CAR. WHO EVER SAID THAT THE ROTARY ENGINE ISN'T RELIABLE SHOULD GET THERE HEAD OUT OF THERE ASS AND THINK FOR A SECOND. THE ROTARY ENGINE HAS 80% FEWER MOVING PARTS THAN YOUR RICER HONDA, THEY DON'T NEED A VALVE TRAIN AT ALL. THEY ALSO SPIN MORE FREE THAN A PISTON. I CAN EASILY TAKE MY CAR TO 10k RPM BEFORE I LET OFF, AND YOU KNOW WHAT, I'VE OWNED THE CAR FOR 3 YEARS WITHOUT ANY PROBLEMS. MY CAR ASLO DOES 0-60 IN UNDER 6 (5.7 ACTUALLY)SEC AND MY CAR IS STOCK. MY FINNAL POINT IS ABOUT THE REBUILD KITS, IF YOU WOULD STOP LOOKING AT ALL THE PORN ON THE INTERNET AND LOOK FOR PARTS, YOU CAN FIND THINGS A LOT CHEAPER. A COMPLETE, AND I MEAN COMPLETE, REBUILD KIT WILL COST YOU AROUND $600+LABOUR. BUT YOUR NOT GOING TO NEED ONE AT 90kMILES, I HAVE 150k ON MY CAR AND IT STILL WILL BEAT THE CRAP OUT OF YOUR MOM'S GROCERY GETTER. SO IN CONCLUSION, IF YOU WANT A GOOD CAR BUY A RX-7. IF YOU CAN'T GET A ROTARY, SAVE YOUR MONEY
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05-07-2002, 05:31 PM
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#12
05-07-2002, 09:26 PM
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Well said swedish, well said
 Oh yeah, and I'm the one who pointed out that people usualy opt for a big single scroll turbo over a twin turbo system with a rotary engine. I didn't say that the turbo II is a TT, but he was talking about upgrading the car and one of the obvious upgrades he was thinking of doing was CHANGING it to a bigger twin turbo system. I advised against this as it would cut into the 13b's already less then prolonged lifetime. And yes rotary's do have very short lifespans. The apex seals always go. A naturally aspirated one can last a long time, but a turbo charged model will only get to maybe 100,000 miles tops before it starts haveing major problems and needs a rebuild. As for rebuild kit prices, your right, they can be had for less then $1500, if you know where to look. However, since i don't know this guy I have to assume he doesn't know where to look. Also, they are money pits, because even if you do get a kit for $600, like you said yourself, you still need to pay for labour. And the labour on an engine rebuild ain't cheap. Trust me man, I'm on our side. The RX-7 is my favourite car ever, and I'm usually the one trying to explain to people how much superioir a rotary is to anything else, but the do have their downsides, at least until the RX-8 is released
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05-26-2002, 02:13 AM
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How bout a sceond car...
Im gonna be a junior in high school next school year and im learning to drive on my mom's 89 Mercury Tracer(soon to be mine yuck!). Do you guys think that summer after senior year or sometime in college is the best time to get a supra/300z/rx-7? Or should i just wait until im a Automotive Designer(fingers crossed...)or Mechanical Engineer to get a RX-8/350Z/Lancer EVO?.....I wonder if the Tracer is modable, I was looking at the speedometer and it goes up to 140kph/85mph(POS)...*sigh*being me sucks
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