96 Clutch to floor

[drahthaar1]

I have done the search and there are some similair problems to this but here is the story. 1996 Passport 3.2 5 speed, 4x4

About three weeks ago I got in and the clutch pedal was very weak. I started to drive and the pedal stuck to the floor. I opened the hood and saw the fluid was low. I also noticed that it was very dirty like it has metal filings in it. Any way upon adding fluid the clutch went back to normal and I drove it until today. I stop a Kmart and the the clutch felt weak again. I thought I would check the fluids and I found it was low again. I bought and added fliud and pummped up the clutch. I got stronger but not back to normal. I drove two block and stopped to get gas. I check to fluid again and pumped the clutch back up. I finished pumping gas and got in and the clutch stuck to the floor. I worked with my hand and it stayed stuck to the floor.

I was thinking I better call and get a tow but I played the engine in 1st and started it. Away I went matching rpms. I drove and got home and played with and it still is sticking to the floor.

My thoughts are that fliud is not getting down to disengage the clutch. I would think that the clutch is still good, because I drove it home and there has not been any grinding sounds or anything like that. If it was locked up would the pedal not have any pressure.

I am going to start by testing the master and slave cylinders plus the the lines.

Any imput would help
Thanks
Joe

[Tonupboy]

Did you check for leaks at leaast?

[drahthaar1]

The first time that I added fliud was the about the first week I drove it off the lot. It has 110000 on it.

I was just outside I looked at the fliud and lines the fliud is more like a dirty oil color. There was some fliud leaking from where the engine bolts to the tranny. I think it was the fliud from the clutch it didn't smell like engine oil.

Think that I have a slave cylinder problem so I think that is the next step.

[steveb_92rodeo]

Originally Posted by drahthaar1

Think that I have a slave cylinder problem so I think that is the next step.

Ahhhh yeah. Agreed with Tonupboy...if you are losing clutch hydraulic fluid, the only place it can go is...to the ground.

Ensure you have no leaks between the slave cylinder (usually on the firewall) and the contact to the tranny. There is certainly a leak, as the engine does not touch this fluid.

If this truck has ever had a clutch job before, I'll bet it's leaking because someone stomped the pedal while the cylinder was seperated from the tranny. This action quickly and efficiently breaks the emergency stop at the other end, forcing the fluid out quickly.

Check where the cylinder meets the fork for leaks...

...just guessing...

Steve

[drahthaar1]

I just spoke with my father and he said I best check the master cylinder because the blackness in the fliud is from one of the rubber boots failing. I did some more snooping around and the master is leaking inside the cab but is is running under the carpeting.


I now have disconected the master cylinder and it will be replaced.
As I was disconnecting the slave cylinder I pulled it out and the push rod and rubber boot was complete disconnected from the cylinder. it just fell out on the ground.

Looks like they both need to be replaced.

[steveb_92rodeo]

Well, I'm glad you at least found the problem.

I always did prefer the cable type clutches, albeit I've had one of them break at a busy city streets red light before in my Chevette. I guess all systems have their problems.

Steve