Professor Churchill

[TexasF355F1]

http://www.cnn.com/2005/EDUCATION/02....ap/index.html

I am really surprised that this hasn't been brought up yet. This guy does have the freedom of speech, but is way out of line and needs to be dealt with. Here's some pictures outside of his office and in the Ethics section of Colorado University.







Professor do not need to be teaching their opinions. They need to teach the lesson plans and allow students to make their own minds up. The guy is obviously a far-left loon. No one that died that day deserved it and that's the bottom line.

[TexasF355F1]

I can't believe no one has absolutely nothing to say on this subject whatsoever.

[twospirits]

Either there is nothing to say since the topic speaks for itself, or what can be said might not be good to hear and cause a riot.

TS out

[taranaki]

Of course, if he was from the other extreme, the 'with us or against us' Gestapo,nobody would be reporting it.

[KustmAce]

Have you read his report? If not, then how do you know the context of the quotes you have heard?

From what I have heard, I think he may have gone a bit over-board, but I support his right to say whatever he wants to say 100%.

And all those people who think he should be fired, or be punished somehow, all I can say is WTF.

[Tehvisseeus]

He's part of the school. They have the right to fire him and should exercize tht right.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by TexasF355F1

This guy does have the freedom of speech, but is way out of line and needs to be dealt with.

Make your mind up.Does hew have the constitutional right to free speech, or are you going to try and dick him if you don't like what he says?

Originally Posted by Tehvisseeus

He's part of the school. They have the right to fire him and should exercize tht right.

Last I heard, it was the 'bad' countries that fired their public servants for not holding the approved opinions.
Countries like Iraq, where if you didn't belong to the right school of thought, you didn't get to keep your job.Is that really the kind of mentality that you want for 'the land of the free'?How long before you start demanding that Proffessor Churchill and anyone else who dares to criticise a mediocre foreign policy be dragged off to jail for sedition?

Make your mind up.If you believe that this whole invasion of Iraq was about democracy, freedom of speech and tolerance, you'd better demonstrate that you know what you are talking about by showing some courtesy to those who are smart enough to know that you are wrong.

[KustmAce]

I completely agree with naki. What kind of an incredible hypocrite would invade a country in the name of freedom (eventually) and then restrict the most BASIC of freedoms at home?

Tehvisseeus, do you really believe he should be fired for stating his opinion, which happens to be one not everyone agrees with?

PS- Why the hell is it always in Colorado...? Is there something in our water?

[TexasF355F1]

Originally Posted by taranaki

Make your mind up.Does hew have the constitutional right to free speech, or are you going to try and dick him if you don't like what he says?

Yes he does have the right to free speech. But referring the victims who died in 9/11 as "Little Ike-mans" and comparing them to the likes of Adolf Hitler is a travesty. It may as well be considered being racist and its a total lack of respect to the victims and their families.

[Tehvisseeus]

Originally Posted by taranaki

Last I heard, it was the 'bad' countries that fired their public servants for not holding the approved opinions.
Countries like Iraq, where if you didn't belong to the right school of thought, you didn't get to keep your job.Is that really the kind of mentality that you want for 'the land of the free'?How long before you start demanding that Proffessor Churchill and anyone else who dares to criticise a mediocre foreign policy be dragged off to jail for sedition?

Make your mind up.If you believe that this whole invasion of Iraq was about democracy, freedom of speech and tolerance, you'd better demonstrate that you know what you are talking about by showing some courtesy to those who are smart enough to know that you are wrong.

For one you're right, he is a public servant. Therefor shouldn't the public have the right to fire him? I do not agree with the Iraq war because it brought freedom, democracy, or any of the other wonderful talking points to the Iraquis. I agree with it because of the hundreds of thousands of people in mass graves.

No one is saying that the profesor can not say what he wants. We just don't think that we should be footing the bill.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by Tehvisseeus

No one is saying that the profesor can not say what he wants. We just don't think that we should be footing the bill.

You're not paying for his opinion,you are paying him to do a job.If he's not performing,fire him for sure,but if you just don't like how he sees things,too bad.

People who try to restrict free speech are usually those who are too authoritarian and stupid to debate the point.I get tired of the Republican mantra, but I'm not in the habit of demanding that all people who post that nonsense here be prevented from speaking.

Originally Posted by TexasF355F1

Yes he does have the right to free speech. But referring the victims who died in 9/11 as "Little Ike-mans" and comparing them to the likes of Adolf Hitler is a travesty. It may as well be considered being racist and its a total lack of respect to the victims and their families.

The existence of offensive comment is the price that you pay for free speech.There wouuld be no need for the term if everyone thought the same thing.The guy is using the 9/11 victims as pawns in his argument, which for a professor, is pretty poor.However, when such behaviou is exhibited by a President, it's less than poor, it's utterly contemptible.

[RSX-S777]

The way this country is headed, it won't be long before all liberals, free thinkers and those that deviate from the ultra-conservative, pseudo-nationalistic agenda will be replaced with right wing Puritan PC drones anyhow (We don't mind footing the bill for them). So just hang in there- we are simply experiencing some mild turbulence. I would just sit back and enjoy your tax cut, it will all go away soon...

[Raz_Kaz]

/\ Speak of the devil

[RSX-S777]

And I shall appear. Spreading plague, famine, pestilence and liberal propaganda.

[Muscletang]

http://www.kersplebedeb.com/mystuff/s11/churchill.html

Here is a link to that guy's report if you want to read it. It's very, very, very long and is broken up into several sections.

"The men who flew the missions against the WTC and Pentagon were not "cowards." That distinction properly belongs to the "firm-jawed lads" who delighted in flying stealth aircraft through the undefended airspace of Baghdad, dropping payload after payload of bombs on anyone unfortunate enough to be below – including tens of thousands of genuinely innocent civilians – while themselves incurring all the risk one might expect during a visit to the local video arcade."

The above statement is just a small taste as to what the report is about and the mood of it. If it gets under your skin and pisses you off you probably shouldn't read it or prepare yourself.