Pure Disgust...

Raz_Kaz · #1 01-31-2005, 06:01 PM

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6889654/

thegladhatter · #2 01-31-2005, 06:17 PM

At least there is SOME clear thinking going on!

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Another judge sees case differently
In that case, U.S. District Judge Richard Leon concluded that foreign citizens captured and detained outside the United States have no rights under the Constitution or international law.

A third federal judge, U.S. District Judge James Robertson, ruled in November that because defendants in military trials are accorded fewer legal rights than prisoners of war, the proceedings deny them their basic legal rights. Robertson ordered the military to come up with a new procedure in a ruling that the government is appealing.

Ultimately, the conflicting rulings are expected to reach the Supreme Court.

Rbraczyk · #3 01-31-2005, 06:25 PM

Finally, its about damn time they did something about this.

Raz_Kaz · #4 01-31-2005, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by thegladhatter

At least there is SOME clear thinking going on!

So I guess it's ok now to kidnap foreigners and keep the detained against their rights.

So why do you guys get mad whent hey kidnap US civilians?

Tehvisseeus · #5 01-31-2005, 07:10 PM

US civilians tend not to be shooting at the people doing the kidnapping.

Raz_Kaz · #6 01-31-2005, 07:14 PM

You cannot honestly be telling me you would be perfectly fine if some foreign country started kidnapping US civilians and treating them the same way the suspected terrorirsts are at Gitmo.

2strokebloke · #7 01-31-2005, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Tehvisseeus

US civilians tend not to be shooting at the people doing the kidnapping.

Unless they're members of the NRA.

Sometimes they shoot at people who aren't even trying to kidnapp them.

thegladhatter · #8 01-31-2005, 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raz_Kaz

So I guess it's ok now to kidnap foreigners and keep the detained against their rights.

So why do you guys get mad whent hey kidnap US civilians?

IF the US civilians were carrying out terrorism and fighting in a war as enemy combatants, that is the price they pay. As I see it...it aint happening. Those losers at Gitmo were in a war zone carrying out their war against US. Screw them. I hope they rot.

Raz_Kaz · #9 01-31-2005, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by thegladhatter

IF the US civilians were carrying out terrorism and fighting in a war as enemy combatants, that is the price they pay. As I see it...it aint happening. Those losers at Gitmo were in a war zone carrying out their war against US. Screw them. I hope they rot.

No, they are suspected, no proof supporting that they are terrorists. For all you know they were just pulled off the streets or homes just because someone was having a bad day.
Again, those "losers" are innocent and there is no proof yet that they were doing anything. Now here we go, you are saying they were carrying out their war so that makes them POW's, not just supected terrorists and therefor deserve the same rights as any POW.

It's stupid thinking such as this that makes me lose hope in humanity

thegladhatter · #10 01-31-2005, 08:30 PM

They were captured IN THE ACT. We don't go around rounding them up just walking down the street minding their own business. THAT is assinine.

Heep · #11 01-31-2005, 08:34 PM

I need something cleared up.

From what I can see, POWs get more legal rights than "suspected terrorists," correct? So, were these prisoners caught in the act shooting at Americans, in which case they were at war and became POWs, or were they sitting idle and taken as suspected terrorists?

Tehvisseeus · #12 01-31-2005, 08:40 PM

They do not represent a governed body and therefore do not fit the definition of a POW

Raz_Kaz · #13 01-31-2005, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by thegladhatter

They were captured IN THE ACT. We don't go around rounding them up just walking down the street minding their own business. THAT is assinine.

Then why are they labelled "suspected terrorists" if they were caught during the act?
They were fighting back and they were captured. Some idiot decided to clal them terrorists because he knows that this way they can do whatever they wat and get away with it.
Either admit they were captured fighters, therefor POW's, or admit to unlawful kidnapping of foreginers.

thegladhatter · #14 01-31-2005, 11:22 PM

They are captured nutsacks deserving of shiite.

T4 Primera · #15 01-31-2005, 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by thegladhatter

They are captured nutsacks deserving of shiite.

I see your powers of reason, logic and persuasion are as sharp as ever

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