HELP! Forced Prayer at Work

sivic02 · #1 01-31-2005, 12:49 PM

screw it

dirtydx · #2 01-31-2005, 01:06 PM

sometimes people have swallow their pride.. what does it take, like 20 seconds to say a small thank you? who cares, how long do people actually keep grocery store jobs anyways..? tell your friends to stop being snobs.

jon@af · #3 01-31-2005, 01:06 PM

They can't FORCE you to pray. If you don't have the same religious beliefs, then they can't impose theirs upon you because you're subordinate of the managment. Tell your friend that if he does not wish to pray that he should stand up and say so, and if they threaten to fire him, he has every right to sue them for unjust dismissal (or so I would assume). I'm not a lawyer, but something tells me they have no right to force someone to do something against his or her wishes while using position of authority as the only means of leverage.

Heep · #4 01-31-2005, 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by sivic02

Ok, I have a few friends who recently told me about the grocery store they are working in has been "forcing" people to pray before eating. I am sure there has been some court case or some law question about this answered before. I have looked around and havent been able to come up with anything concrete to send to their employer. So if any of you law buffs have any ideas that can help me out or know of any court cases that I can use as a referance I will be forever in debt to you. Thanks.

Sorry, I don't know of anything in particular, but keep in mind anything you find might be state specific, as laws can vary between states...

YogsVR4 · #5 01-31-2005, 01:09 PM

I've never heard of this happening. I think your friend is yanking your chain.

sivic02 · #6 01-31-2005, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dirtydx

sometimes people have swallow their pride.. what does it take, like 20 seconds to say a small thank you? who cares, how long do people actually keep grocery store jobs anyways..? tell your friends to stop being snobs.

First of all one of my friends has been working there since he was a sophomore in high school so he is working on 6 years now. Who cares? I care, he isnt the kind of person who will stand up against people who hold his job in their hands. And what makes you think that they are snobs? Also I didnt ask for your opinion I asked for facts and help.

KustmAce · #7 01-31-2005, 02:01 PM

Unless they have a gun to his head, all he has to do is NOT DO IT.

Not rocket science people.

sivic02 · #8 01-31-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by YogsVR4

I've never heard of this happening. I think your friend is yanking your chain.

Aparently youve never lived in the "bible belt" lol

SniperX13 · #9 01-31-2005, 02:15 PM

arent prayers supposed to be silent? so unless he has to say it outloud, whats wrong with closing your eyes, mumbling your lips a bit.

Jet-Lee · #10 01-31-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by sivic02

Aparently youve never lived in the "bible belt" lol

He may not, but I DO. An Employer can't force you to pray, it's called freedom of religion. And if they fire him for refusing to pray, it's "discrimination on a religous basis". Tell him to suck it up and speak up, and to not be a little puss. If he get's fired, he can sue them for more money than he would have made in 5 years employed there.

imtheoneandonlyD · #11 01-31-2005, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jet-Lee

He may not, but I DO. An Employer can't force you to pray, it's called freedom of religion. And if they fire him for refusing to pray, it's "discrimination on a religous basis". Tell him to suck it up and speak up, and to not be a little puss. If he get's fired, he can sue them for more money than he would have made in 5 years employed there.

fredjacksonsan · #12 01-31-2005, 03:55 PM

+2, so he's got to ask himself the question: is it more important to fit in and keep the job, or does it bother him enough to stand up and possibly lose his job over it (with possible lawsuit)?

sivic02 · #13 01-31-2005, 04:06 PM

Look, the guy isnt going to stand up and say anything about it. I have (at this time) one person over there who is going to stand up and who is getting some statements from people who were there when this happened but thats it.

I honestly dont care what your opinion is on the matter the fact is I was asked for my help on this and I in turn asked for help from you guys. I dont care if he is a "pansy" for not saying anything. If you cant help me with this then id like to ask you to keep your opinions to yourself.

fredjacksonsan · #14 01-31-2005, 04:20 PM

Sorry; check your local laws I don't know.

dirtydx · #15 01-31-2005, 04:46 PM

gathering statements on a forced prayer?? man.. not even judge judy would take this one. People have more serious matters to take care of.

i just pictured a court room full of children, with babies as the jury.. please stand before the honourable judge big bird... now raise your right hand and swear you will tell the truth upon the great Willy Wonka.

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