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Old 01-24-2005, 12:15 PM   #1
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should churches be barrying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

Why are the people geting these abortions geting angry when a church performs a funneral for the aborted fetus? These women view these babies as medical waste, same as your tooth being pulled out and discarded. Why then do they care what is done with the medical waste?
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Old 01-24-2005, 02:32 PM   #2
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Re: should churches be barrying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

Because they're messed up in the head.
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Old 01-24-2005, 04:14 PM   #3
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Re: Re: should churches be barrying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

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Because they're messed up in the head.
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thats a dead baby that could of had a life if it wasnt killed
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The reason is becuase it brings back old wounds. For whatever reason the women had to abort the fetus, its theirs and their alone. The church has no right to bring it back to the surface. So much for a loving and compasionate church.

Thsi also brings up another question, what if the original woman that aborted the fetus is not of that churches beliefs. What if they were Jewish or something else. Why perform a religous ceremony? Are they all of the same church/regious order.

Its just another form of the religous groups trying to bring back the abortion issue and I say enough is enough. Until the courts determine to reverse the decision just leave it alone.

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Re: should churches be barrying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

Yeah, the churches shouldn't be wasting their time - there's more important things to be done in this world than foolin' round with medical waste.
Sheesh, some people's priorities are way out of whack.

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Would you be upset if somebody burried your grandfather without any permission? What if your grandfather wasn't a christian?
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Re: Should churches be burying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

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The reason is becuase it brings back old wounds. For whatever reason the women had to abort the fetus, its theirs and their alone. The church has no right to bring it back to the surface. So much for a loving and compasionate church.

Thsi also brings up another question, what if the original woman that aborted the fetus is not of that churches beliefs. What if they were Jewish or something else. Why perform a religous ceremony? Are they all of the same church/regious order.

Its just another form of the religous groups trying to bring back the abortion issue and I say enough is enough. Until the courts determine to reverse the decision just leave it alone.

TS out
I think the point 732 is making is why should the women care? It's like having a funeral for a tumor as far as they are concerned. THey got it cut out and threw it away. After you throw it away what difference could it make to the disposer of the unwanted trash? To abort something is to get rid of it. To no longer have ownership of it.
The church has no right to bring it back to the surface? They have as much right to it as someone picking up a can from the street. That can and the 10 cent refund belong to the person picking up the can.
For the second question...Who cares what the woman who aborted the child believes in? It's no longer her child.(or should I say tumor or trash?) The ceremony is not for the woman. It's in honor of someone who never had a chance at life.

Go ahead and continue to kill your children. Throw them away as if they mean nothing. Cut them from your body as if they are just a parasite then throw them in a garbage bin and forget about them. Just remember..One mans trash is another mans treasure.
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Yeah, the churches shouldn't be wasting their time - there's more important things to be done in this world than foolin' round with medical waste.
That's the problem isn't it? You see medical waste.


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Are you saying your Grandfather is just medical waste?
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The woman gets an abortion but gets mad when a church performs a service for her baby? This thing sounds very hypocritical to me. If the woman didn't care about killing her child, she shouldn't care about giving it a service.
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Re: Should churches be burying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

If your leg got amputated would you want someone fooling around with it?
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If your leg got amputated would you want someone fooling around with it?
Not the same. A leg is something you wanted to keep. It was a personal part of you for many years. When someone aborts a child it was something they did not want to keep. It was a tumor. Would I be upset is someone was fooling around with my tumor? Who cares?
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Re: Re: Should churches be burying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

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I think the point 732 is making is why should the women care? It's like having a funeral for a tumor as far as they are concerned. THey got it cut out and threw it away. After you throw it away what difference could it make to the disposer of the unwanted trash? To abort something is to get rid of it. To no longer have ownership of it.
exactly what I meant. I think that these women that get upset that churches are performing funerals on their "medical waste", are mad because they dont want to admit that these "medical wastes" are actually human, living, creatures with a right to life. The idea that the "medical waste" is being treated the same as a child who died at age 1 would be treated, this upsets the women that had the abortion and if they admit that, then they admit they chose to end another life. If they trully thought that the "medical waste" was infact a tumor or a parasite feeding off their uterus, then they would not care what was done with it.
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Re: Should churches be burying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

Correct 732; there should be no complaints what is done with medical waste; if a person complains what is done with medical waste, then obviously it was not medical waste to them.

I think it's great that the churches involved are backing up their position with action.

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That's the problem isn't it? You see medical waste.
No, I'm saying that with all the good things Churches could be doing ot HELP people, they'd rather waste their time doing something totally useless because they can't come to terms with the idea that not everybody has the same ideals as they do. In other words, I think it's pretty immature grab for attention that's not helping anybody in any way.
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No, I'm saying that with all the good things Churches could be doing ot HELP people, they'd rather waste their time doing something totally useless because they can't come to terms with the idea that not everybody has the same ideals as they do. In other words, I think it's pretty immature grab for attention that's not helping anybody in any way.
Good things they could be doing??? Look around. They do more good for communities than any other group out there. They out give any other group. They donate more of their time to help than any other group. They are usually the ones that start the orginizations that you see in the community that reach out to the poor and homeless and they continue to support them with their money and time. So when they do something to draw attention to the fact that these children aren't just medical waste you complain they should be doing more? What have you done lately?
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Old 02-01-2005, 10:19 AM   #15
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Re: Should churches be burying aborted babies ashes? Why are they against it

And the fact that the churches see the aborted child as a person with a soul is why they're giving a proper burial. Of course it is going to draw attention; if their motives are to draw attention, then they're wrong for doing it; however if doing it to pay respect to a person and provide a decent burial, then they're in the right.
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