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Old 01-21-2005, 10:01 PM
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Angry '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

My '96 Suburban 1500 4x4 won't shift into 4 wheel drive. When I push the button for 4 Hi the light just flashes and stays in 2 wheel drive. The switch is good because I can hear it engage when I push the button. There seems to be a small amount of fluid (pinkish color) leaking from the transfer case but I couldn't get a good look at it tonight since it is about 10 degrees in my garage right now.
Any suggestions would be helpful, thanks.
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Old 01-23-2005, 05:04 AM
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Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

is there a fuse that is blown that activates the 4x4 or the switch at the transfer case isn't activating? what do u hear when it locks in ??
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Old 01-23-2005, 05:21 AM
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Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

are their any codes stored? check the tccm connector for corrosion thats on the computer let me know if that fixes the problem?
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Old 01-23-2005, 06:56 PM
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Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

Check both "T Case" and "4WD" fuses at left side of instrument panel. Don't just look at them but physically check them for continuity. Beyond that you'll need a code scanner for that system to troubleshoot. Shift actuators seem to the primary suspect........Steve
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Old 02-28-2005, 07:08 PM
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Cool Re: Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

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Check both "T Case" and "4WD" fuses at left side of instrument panel. Don't just look at them but physically check them for continuity. Beyond that you'll need a code scanner for that system to troubleshoot. Shift actuators seem to the primary suspect........Steve
Hay this is my first time on this but I had the same thing happen to my truck I had to replace the actuator switch on the transfer case this is a GM part only and costed me about 68 dollars the switch is about 2" round and can be seen from the pas. side had two wires coming out of it. When in 4X4 you will have 12 volts on the wire harness that is how I was told to test it. You might have to a wire harness for the upgraded switch But is easy to do and it comes with instructions.
Hope this helps you out

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Old 01-24-2006, 11:27 AM
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Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

The problem is in your front axel with the engaging silinoid. My suburban had the same problem I changed the fuses ect, ect, ect but it ended up being the silinoid in the front axel. It is on the top of it and sligthtly to to the drivers side. It is screwed on and just had a wire set on top of it. Just unscrew it and replace, its just that easy. Any more help needed ill send you a picture of it , part should only cost about $80.00 if you do the labor yourself. Hope that helps.

DONT LET THEM OVERCHARGE YOU THEY TRIED TO CHARGE ME $ 125.00
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Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

Here's the TSB for those that don't know about it

SLOW OR NO ENGAGEMENT OF FRT. AXLE WHEN 4WD IS SELECTED

TSB#76-43-01A - (09/18/1998)
REVISION: 09/17/98 DIVS INVL 1 5 7

THIS BULLETIN IS BEING REVISED TO ADD INFORMATION TO THE SERVICE PROCEDURE, ADD A NEW PART NUMBER, AND INCLUDE SCHEMATICS. PLEASE DISCARD CORPORATE BULLETIN NUMBER 76-43-01 (SECTION 4 - DRIVE AXLE). __________________________________________________ ____________________

SUBJECT: SLOW OR NO ENGAGEMENT OF FRONT AXLE WHEN 4WD IS SELECTED (REPLACE FRONT AXLE ACTUATOR)

MODELS: 1988-97 CHEVROLET AND GMC K MODELS EXCLUDING 1988-93 MODELS OVER 8500# GVW

CONDITION:

SOME OWNERS MAY COMMENT THAT THE COLDER THE OUTSIDE TEMPERATURE IS, THE LONGER IT TAKES FOR THE FRONT AXLE TO ENGAGE WHEN 4 WHEEL DRIVE IS SELECTED, OR THE FRONT AXLE DOES NOT ENGAGE.

CAUSE:

THE FRONT AXLE ENGAGEMENT ACTUATOR IS A THERMALLY ACTIVATED COMPONENT. BECAUSE OF THIS CHARACTERISTIC, THE TIME REQUIRED FOR THE ACTUATOR TO COMPLETE 4 WHEEL DRIVE ENGAGEMENT IS EXTENDED AS THE TEMPERATURE DROPS.

CORRECTION:

REPLACE THE FRONT AXLE ACTUATOR AND INCLUDE THE APPLICABLE WIRING HARNESS KIT. REFER TO THE PARTS INFORMATION IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHICH WIRING HARNESS KIT IS NEEDED.

1996 MODEL TRUCKS WITH A BUILD DATE ON OR AFTER JANUARY 2, 1996 ARE CONSIDERED AS "96I". IF THE BUILD DATE OF THE TRUCK IS UNKNOWN, VERIFY THE 3 CHARACTER "AXLE CODE" ON THE FRONT AXLE LABEL IN ORDER TO DETERMINE WHICH WIRE HARNESS TO ORDER.

THIS NEW ACTUATOR USES A MOTOR TO ENGAGE THE FRONT AXLE AND IS NOT AFFECTED BY TEMPERATURE. ON 1988-93 MODELS WITH A GVW RATING OVER 8500#, THE NEW ACTUATOR CANNOT BE INSTALLED AND THE THERMAL ACTUATOR WILL REMAIN THE SERVICE PART.

SERVICE PROCEDURE

1. REMOVE THE FRONT DIFFERENTIAL CARRIER SHIELD, IF EQUIPPED.

2. IF NECESSARY, CLEAN THE AXLE HOUSING IN THE AREA AROUND THE EXISTING ACTUATOR. DISCONNECT THE ACTUATOR'S ELECTRICAL CONNECTION AT THE FRONT AXLE HOUSING.

3. REMOVE THE FRONT AXLE ACTUATOR BY UNTHREADING THE ACTUATOR FROM THE AXLE HOUSING.

4. INSTALL THE SPACER FROM THE WIRING KIT INTO THE AXLE TUBE WITH THE FLAT SIDE SEATED AGAINST THE SHIFT FORK.

5. INSTALL THE ACTUATOR MOTOR AND TIGHTEN UNTIL THE SHOULDER OF THE ACTUATOR SEATS AGAINST THE AXLE TUBE.

IMPORTANT: IF BINDING OCCURS BEFORE THE ACTUATOR IS SEATED, REMOVE THE ACTUATOR AND RESEAT THE SPACER BY PUSHING ON THE SPACER WITH A SCREWDRIVER. THEN REINSTALL THE ACTUATOR.

ON K3 MODELS WITH THE CAST IRON AXLE TUBE, THERE MAY BE A CASTING BURR WHICH MAY CONTACT THE EDGE OF THE ACTUATOR. THIS SHOULD NOT CREATE A CONCERN AND THE ACTUATOR SHOULD SEAT AGAINST THE AXLE TUBE. IF THIS CONTACT REMAINS A CONCERN, USE A DIE GRINDER IN ORDER TO REMOVE THE BURR.

6. CONNECT THE SERVICE HARNESS CONNECTOR TO THE ACTUATOR AND CONNECT THE 2-PIN CONNECTOR TO THE MATING CONNECTOR AT THE AXLE. FOR 1994 TO CURRENT MODELS, IN THE CASE OF A COMPLETE AXLE REPLACEMENT, REFER TO FIGURE 1.

7. ROUTE THE WIRING HARNESS ALONG THE EXISTING HARNESS ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE VEHICLE. ROUTE CKT 241 (BRN) OVER THE TOP AND TO THE LEFT OF THE TRANSMISSION. SECURE THE HARNESS USING PLASTIC TIES.

8. FOR 1995-97 INTERIM VEHICLES, LOCATE THE 4-WIRE CONNECTOR (C120) ON THE LEFT SIDE OF THE TRANSMISSION. SPLICE THE BRN WIRE OF THE ACTUATOR HARNESS INTO CAVITY D OF CKT 241 (BRN) ON THE ENGINE SIDE OF CONNECTOR C120. FOLLOW THE SPLICING PROCEDURE DESCRIBED IN SECTION 8A (ELECTRICAL DIAGNOSIS REPAIR PROCEDURES) OF THE APPLICABLE SERVICE MANUAL.

IMPORTANT: THE NEW FAST AXLE ACTUATOR REQUIRES ONLY 1 SPLICE. - FOR 1993 AND PRIOR VEHICLES, SPLICE INTO CKT 50 (BRN) BETWEEN CONNECTOR C152 AND GT101 (FIGURES 2,3,4). - FOR 1994 VEHICLES, SPLICE INTO CKT 50 (BRN) BETWEEN CONNECTOR C152 AND P101 (FIGURES 5,6). - FOR 1995-97 VEHICLES, SPLICE INTO CKT 241 (BRN) BETWEEN CONNECTORS C120 AND C100 (FIGURE 7).

NOTICE: CONNECTIONS MUST BE WATER TIGHT IN ORDER TO PREVENT WATER FROM ENTERING THE CIRCUIT AND CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE COMPONENTS.

9. ON K3 MODELS, INSTALL THE DELAY RELAY, INCLUDED AS PART OF THE WIRING HARNESS KIT, AT THE ENGINE SIDE OF THE BULKHEAD, ADJACENT TO THE EXISTING RELAY. MOUNT THE NEW RELAY WITH SELF-DRILLING FASTENER, P/N 22510339. ROUTE AND SECURE THE RELAY WIRE HARNESS BEHIND THE RIGHT OXYGEN SENSOR HEAT SHIELD.

10. VERIFY SYSTEM OPERATION. WHEN SHIFTING THE TRANSFER CASE, YOU SHOULD HEAR THE ACTUATOR MOTOR OPERATE.

IMPORTANT: THIS RELAY INCORPORATES A 5 SECOND DELAY FOR THE FRONT AXLE TO ENGAGE IN ORDER TO ALLOW THE TRANSFER CASE SYNCHRONIZER TO ENERGIZE.

FOR 88-93 VEHICLES, IF THE AXLE HAS TO BE REPLACED, USE JUMPER HARNESS P/N 15313272. CKT 1695 (BLK/WHT) FITS INTO CAVITY A OF THE FAST ACTUATOR. THE CIRCUIT INCLUDES THE CABLE SEAL AND THE TERMINAL PIN. THIS CIRCUIT PLUGS INTO THE 5-PIN AXLE ACTUATOR CONNECTOR.

11. DO THE FOLLOWING STEPS IN ORDER TO INSTALL JUMPER HARNESS P/N 15313272:

1. LOCATE THE AXLE ACTUATOR 5-PIN CONNECTOR ON THE SERVICE ACTUATOR WIRING HARNESS AND REMOVE THE TPA. 2. REMOVE AND DISCARD THE CAVITY PLUG FROM CAVITY A. 3. INSTALL CKT 1695 LEAD (BLK/WHT) FROM THE JUMPER HARNESS THAT HAS THE CABLE SEAL AND TERMINAL INTO AXLE ACTUATOR CONNECTOR CAVITY A. 4. REINSTALL THE TPA ON THE 5-PIN CONNECTOR. 5. INSTALL THE SERVICE ACTUATOR HARNESS 5-PIN CONNECTOR INTO THE AXLE ACTUATOR. 6. CONNECT JUMPER HARNESS 2X2 CONNECTOR INTO THE EXISTING VEHICLE 4WD MATING CONNECTOR. 7. STRAP THE JUMPER HARNESS AND THE SERVICE HARNESS TO THE TAB ON THE AXLE TUBE.

PARTS INFORMATION:

P/N DESCRIPTION QTY --- ----------- ---

26060073 ACTUATOR ASM, FRT DRIVE AXLE 1 22510339 FASTENER 1 15313272 HARNESS, JUMPER (Z SPLICE)(88-93 K1-3) 1

AXLE CODE 12376316 KIT, ACTUATOR WIRING HARNESS (88-96I K1,2) ZLS, ZLT, ZLW ZLX, ZLY 12376317 KIT, ACTUATOR WIRING HARNESS (96I-97 K1,2) ZWA, ZWB, ZWD ZWF, ZWG 12376318 KIT, ACTUATOR WIRING HARNESS (94-96I K3) ZLX, ZLY, ZLZ 12376319 KIT, ACTUATOR WIRING HARNESS (96I-97 K3) ZWF, ZWG, ZWH

PARTS, EXCEPT P/N 15313272, ARE CURRENTLY AVAILABLE FROM GMSPO. P/N 15313272 IS EXPECTED TO BE AVAILABLE 9-21-98.




Here is what the parts look like. This was for a Blazer but the parts are similar:
http://www.getdieselpower.com/misc_a...R_UPGRADE.html
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Old 06-14-2013, 03:05 AM
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Wink Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

Thanks this helps a lot. My 96 Chevy Suburban has the same problem. It is a K1500
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Old 01-01-2014, 09:39 PM
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Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

After dealing with my 96 Suburban k2500's 4x4 problems I have come this obstacle. Ive replaced my front axle actuator, the small actuator switch and just installed the Dorman upgraded wire harness.

Once I had the harness hooked up i pressed the 4Hi button, the actuator engaged and my light continued to blink. I then drove the truck and found the 4 wheel drive was working, verified from tight turn wheel chirp. I pressed the 2hi and it disengaged flawlessly. I then tested the 4lo and the light also continued blinking, wheels were engaged. I then put the truck back into 2hi.

Has anyone ever encountered this? What is my next step? Should I be concerned? Thanks in advanced!
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Old 01-02-2014, 10:13 AM
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Re: '96 Suburban won't shift into 4 wheel drive

My 96 Chevy Suburban does the same thing. When I put it in 4 hi or low it flashes. I think this may be a feature to remind you you are in four wheel drive. It does not do it in two wheel drive.
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