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Old 01-21-2005, 08:48 AM   #1
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Question Food For Thought - God/Gods.

This isn't in responce to the other thread: "Are We God?", I have been thinking about this for a few days, and just when I am about to post it for all human kind to witness such amazing wisdom and knowledge *cough*, the other thread popped up..

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It's interesting to me, that the idea of "god", or "gods" have been around for thousands of years before the christian "god" came to us.

The idea is that, one race of people wanted their own god, so they just created it, or, a bunch of jeolous (wanna-be's) made up their god in retaliation to the greeks, etc.

Could it be, just another "hype" that went way out of control?
Could over half the world be devoting their lives worshiping such that is another "spin-off" from the greek mythological gods? There was a "king god" of the greeks, I can't remember the name, but I thought it was interesting to just randomly think that this "one" god could be "theoretically related to" the christian god. You know, all creator, controler, and all mighty?

thoughts?

Actually, did you even understand what I was trying to say?

There are a lot of differant spieces of everything out there, even humans.


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Old 01-21-2005, 11:22 AM   #2
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I am not totaly sure what you are trying to say. Are you trying to say that all religions with a God are branches of the greek religion? " bunch of jeolous (wanna-be's) made up their god in retaliation to the greeks, etc."

There are people who think that they are all one god, but with different names. People from the begining of time, have believed in some type of creator or creators. Look back to the religions of the Indians who lived here before the white man came and killed them all, (off topic). But they believed in a form of a creator, and they are believed to not have any contact with the other side of the world where the greeks where. I think that the idea of a creator stems from the ability of man to question his creation. He can come up with no other reason for being.

"The idea is that, one race of people wanted their own god, so they just created it" I dont think they created the creator, rather they created what the creator wanted for its creation. I think that man can contemplate on what god wants or what gods plan is, but no one person will ever know. I think that there was a creator, but unless "It" came down and spoke to a multitude of people that it will never be known what "it" wants and what it's plan for its creation really is.
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The "king god" of the greeks was Zeus.
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Re: Food For Thought - God/Gods.

and what do you mean the christian god? who do you think the christian god is? do you think its different than that of the jews or even muslim?
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Re: Food For Thought - God/Gods.

I think that it is completely reasonable to believe that humans could have "made up" the idea of God. Think about how much easier it was back then to explain why we exist by saying "A higher being must have put us here" until the theory of evolution came about. Most religions have at least some tie with their God and the God of other religions, so I believe they all worship the same God. Dont get me wrong I believe in God but it is more of a deist belief than anything else.
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Since we're all throwing some theories around I guess I'll put my in.

I'm a Christian and I believe that it's true that Satan and his servants are walking around the earth as we speak. My theory is all the religions were inspired by a confusion of sorts. I'll take the Greek religion as an example.

The Bible says that Satan and his servants are always looking for people to take with them when the time of judgement comes. I think Satan and his servants posed or tricked the Greeks about Zeus, Athena, Mercury, ect.

Please take a minute to think about this for a moment. The Greeks were busy worshiping Zeus and didn't worship the Christian God. What happened to the Greeks who worshiped Zeus instead of the Christian God? Well they all fell for Satan's trick and are waiting for him in hell.
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Re: Food For Thought - God/Gods.

I think it will be funny if when we all die we find out the greeks were right.
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Re: Food For Thought - God/Gods.

i laugh before i die, i laugh of the present day, for those arrogant to beleive will soon find out, he is, i will laugh
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Re: Food For Thought - God/Gods.

i weep before i die, i weep of the present day, for those arrogant to beleive will soon find out, he is, i will weep

Another version.

Is that from a poem or something? (Just curious)
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Re: Food For Thought - God/Gods.

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Since we're all throwing some theories around I guess I'll put my in.

I'm a Christian and I believe that it's true that Satan and his servants are walking around the earth as we speak. My theory is all the religions were inspired by a confusion of sorts. I'll take the Greek religion as an example.

The Bible says that Satan and his servants are always looking for people to take with them when the time of judgement comes. I think Satan and his servants posed or tricked the Greeks about Zeus, Athena, Mercury, ect.

Please take a minute to think about this for a moment. The Greeks were busy worshiping Zeus and didn't worship the Christian God. What happened to the Greeks who worshiped Zeus instead of the Christian God? Well they all fell for Satan's trick and are waiting for him in hell.

That makes sense, but keep in mind, that Satan is a figure of evil for Christianity. He doesn't appear (Lucifer) in any other religion (not that I know of, if I have my facts wrong, correct me). So, to not believe in Satan, is to not believe in God, and vice versa. Assuming the bible is correct, than over 3/4 of the world is doomed.

Then again, now I think of it, Jesus was sent to "write the wrong", or whatever you call it, teach us of the good word, maybe the hidden agenda was to correct people of their god? Tell them there is only one god, not others (i.e. the greeks).

I'm a skeptical, but very open to the topic, and I am very open to the science side too.
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All of these myths and legions were in fact just pagan beliefs pass done through the centuries. Its inconcievable to think in this day and age that it can be all just not true that a God exists. But looking at the past history of civilations and their surroundings and our (human beings) development, one clearly sees that we are a product of our own surroundings and fears. An ancient ancestor first seeing a heavenly occurance such as a full moon or a comet would naturally believe its the result of a higher power and not of their doing or a natural event.

Throughout history, tribes and regions were merged and conquered into bigger ones etc,. Its natural to assume that the customs and beliefs of such tribes and regions would be assimualted in the new one. The ones in power would determine whether who and what the rest of the civilation would worship. Proof of this was the Persian beliefs and pratices. "Much of the information about Persian (old-Iranian) Gods can be found in the relious texts from Zarathustra such as the Avesta and in later sources as the Bundahishn and the Denkard. The original Avesta dates back to 1400-1200 BC but was destroyed by Alexander the Great when he invaded Persia."

The above quote was taken from the Encyclopedia Mythica. Its a very good resource of these myths, forlklore and religion from then up to now.
Whats very interesting and a good example is the concept of Satan in the Jewish Bible. The name comes from Satanas, the Greek form of the Aramic satana.

Its also interesting to note that The Roman Gods were taken and renamed from the Greek ones.

So yes, I do believe all these religous texts and rituals were originally passed down by storytellers that attributed their outcome and surrounding events to a higher power and thus were merged, eliminated and added texts to their own benefit and agendas.

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