Enzo Photoetch questions

[nick f]

I have the Revell Enzo Kit that I plan to build shortly. Does anybody make a detail kit (photoetch) for the Revell Enzo. I know SMS make one for the Tamiya Kit. Can I use the SMS Tamiya kit on the Revell?

Also I have the Tamiya 360 Modena Spyder does anybody make a detail kit for this

[Vric]

Originally Posted by nick f

I have the Revell Enzo Kit that I plan to build shortly. Does anybody make a detail kit (photoetch) for the Revell Enzo. I know SMS make one for the Tamiya Kit. Can I use the SMS Tamiya kit on the Revell?

Also I have the Tamiya 360 Modena Spyder does anybody make a detail kit for this

seriously, if you consider PE for the Revell enzo, why didn't you buy the tamiya kit ?

Revell + PE will not even be close to the Tamiya quality. Only thing the revell version give is a cheap way to built an enzo, but if you are looking to buy PE set, money isn't a factor.

[Technoman]

Absolutely, ditch the Revell and get the Tamiya.

[nick f]

I understand what you are saying, but in my defense heres my explainiation: I only got back into modeling about six months ago and have completed 4 models since (Revell C5R, kit bashed 66 GTO made into a Pro Stock, Revell 98 camaro and AMT 70.5 Baldwin motion Camaro) I purchased the Revell Enzo as a stepping stone for the Tamiya 360 Spyder and then the Tamiya Enzo. I have not worked with photetched parts as of yet and I wanted to hone my skills before atempting the Yamiya Enzo with a detail kit.

Now, please stop bashing me for something that I would like to do in stages. Remember, something new learned in every model.

Nick F.

[Vric]

Originally Posted by nick f

Remember, something new learned in every model.

Nick F.

Very true.

My advice is doing the revell as good as you can, keep the money for a Tamiya one later. This is one of the nicest 1/24 plastic car ever made, and could justify the PE addon, not the revell.

[CADguy]

I have built both the Revell Enzo, and the Tamiya Enzo, and I wouldn't recommend buying the PE for the Revell.
The kit parts are engineered different, and the PE is designed to work with the Tamiya kit.

I don't know what Vrics problem is with the Revell kit. He hasn't built it, and probably doesn't own it, but every chance he gets he bashes the kit. I really get tired of the he does about the Revell Enzo. Hell, he didn't even use a PE set on the Tamiya Enzo he DID build. So he can't really give you accurate advice. Sorry Vric, but enough is enough about the Revell Enzo. If you don't like it, don't build it. Period.

It's not the kit that makes a great model, it's the builder.

The Revell Enzo IS a great kit, and with some patience you can have 4 of them looking great for the price of one Tamiya Enzo.

[ZoomZoomMX-5]

Originally Posted by CADguy

I have built both the Revell Enzo, and the Tamiya Enzo, and I wouldn't recommend buying the PE for the Revell.
The kit parts are engineered different, and the PE is designed to work with the Tamiya kit.

I don't know what Vrics problem is with the Revell kit. He hasn't built it, and probably doesn't own it, but every chance he gets he bashes the kit. I really get tired of the he does about the Revell Enzo. Hell, he didn't even use a PE set on the Tamiya Enzo he DID build. So he can't really give you accurate advice. Sorry Vric, but enough is enough about the Revell Enzo. If you don't like it, don't build it. Period.

It's not the kit that makes a great model, it's the builder.

The Revell Enzo IS a great kit, and with some patience you can have 4 of them looking great for the price of one Tamiya Enzo.

Can I hear an AMEN!

I've got both kits, haven't built either, but having seen very nice Revell kits built, I can say that bashing it is pointless. Plus, if you want to see an Enzo built up w/the panels closed, the Revell kit is better. No Tamiya Enzo I've seen yet looks right w/the panels closed up...the doors don't fit well w/in the roof (gaps and panel inconsistencies) and the relatively poor fit of the decklid. Enough is enough, put quality building techniques into the Revell Enzo, as you have, and the results are impressive.

[Fkouch]

Originally Posted by CADguy

I have built both the Revell Enzo, and the Tamiya Enzo, and I wouldn't recommend buying the PE for the Revell.
The kit parts are engineered different, and the PE is designed to work with the Tamiya kit.

I don't know what Vrics problem is with the Revell kit. He hasn't built it, and probably doesn't own it, but every chance he gets he bashes the kit. I really get tired of the he does about the Revell Enzo. Hell, he didn't even use a PE set on the Tamiya Enzo he DID build. So he can't really give you accurate advice. Sorry Vric, but enough is enough about the Revell Enzo. If you don't like it, don't build it. Period.

It's not the kit that makes a great model, it's the builder. .

However , on the flip side, you can't pretend that the Revell has anywhere near the crisp detail and moulding of the Tamiya. I bought the Tamiya first and later got the Revell one for parts etc. I was quite disapointed in the soft detail and sometimes very poor parts, especially the brakes.
So while I feel the Revell does get some unfair stick, it also gets too much praise IMHO. Great builder or not, you'd have trouble getting the Revell looking even as good as a box stock Tamiya, especially close up. The Tamiya doesn't just have detail, (alot more detail), it also has far crisper moldings.

Basically, you get what you pay for. The Revell is cheap and cheerful but of much better quality than most revell kits.

The Tamiya on the other hand is almost perfection. BTW I got mine very cheap of Ebay, so its not as expensive as people say, just look around. In fact I got the Tamiya Enzo and the Yoshimura X1 at the same retail price I'd pay for just the Enzo

Originally Posted by CADguy

The Revell Enzo IS a great kit, and with some patience you can have 4 of them looking great for the price of one Tamiya Enzo.

Why would we do that? I 'd rather have one great model than four average ones. Plus, where the hell are you shopping? Tamiya Enzo four times the amount of the Revell? You gotta shop around



Cheers

Farrokh

[Fkouch]

Originally Posted by ZoomZoomMX-5

Can I hear an AMEN!

Plus, if you want to see an Enzo built up w/the panels closed, the Revell kit is better. No Tamiya Enzo I've seen yet looks right w/the panels closed up...the doors don't fit well w/in the roof (gaps and panel inconsistencies) and the relatively poor fit of the decklid. Enough is enough, put quality building techniques into the Revell Enzo, as you have, and the results are impressive.

Thats probably because of paint build up. I did a dry test fitting and everything fitted perfectly but after everything was sprayed I found that some of the parts didn't fit aswell anymore. I guess Tamiyas build quality is so good it doesn't allow for much paint buildup

So for my second Enzo I shaved some plastic off some the edges and it worked much better.

Cheers

Farrokh

[Vric]

Originally Posted by CADguy

I don't know what Vrics problem is with the Revell kit. He hasn't built it, and probably doesn't own it, but every chance he gets he bashes the kit. I really get tired of the he does about the Revell Enzo.

What are you talking about ? this is the first time I talk about the Revell Enzo, and yes, I have one setting here. The only thing I bash one os Testor paint and newbee that can't read

Even if I didn't made a good job on my Tamiya one, The Revell one don't even look close to the detail Tamiya offer. I'm sorry if you love this kit, but well, I guess when you don't know better, revell might be a good kit. But someone that want to buy a 100$ detail set on a 9.99$ model, well it's strange to me.

[CADguy]

Originally Posted by Fkouch

However , on the flip side, you can't pretend that the Revell has anywhere near the crisp detail and moulding of the Tamiya. I bought the Tamiya first and later got the Revell one for parts etc. I was quite disapointed in the soft detail and sometimes very poor parts, especially the brakes.
So while I feel the Revell does get some unfair stick, it also gets too much praise IMHO. Great builder or not, you'd have trouble getting the Revell looking even as good as a box stock Tamiya, especially close up. The Tamiya doesn't just have detail, (alot more detail), it also has far crisper moldings.

Basically, you get what you pay for. The Revell is cheap and cheerful but of much better quality than most revell kits.

The Tamiya on the other hand is almost perfection. BTW I got mine very cheap of Ebay, so its not as expensive as people say, just look around. In fact I got the Tamiya Enzo and the Yoshimura X1 at the same retail price I'd pay for just the Enzo

Why would we do that? I 'd rather have one great model than four average ones. Plus, where the hell are you shopping? Tamiya Enzo four times the amount of the Revell? You gotta shop around

The detail, fit and finish of the Tamiya kit IS fantastic, I never said that the Revell is the better kit of the 2. But for a guy just getting back into building, It's complex enough to be a challenge, but easy enough to not be overwhelming. The Tamiya kit was so complex it took me a year to actually start it.
My point is simply this.. Just because it says Revell on the box doesn't automatically make it garbage.

You do get what you pay for, and for 4 times the cost it better meet my expectations of perfection. (I got my Tamiya kits for $20 and my Revell kits for $5 at Hobby Lobbys 1/2 off sale, good prices I think )

Nick F asked about the PE pieces. Studio 27 makes a nice set that I used for my Tamiya Enzo build. I think it was $12-$15.. a far cry from the $35 SMS is asking for their PE set, and much easier on the wallet than their super detail set that is $125.

The Studio 27 PE fret added all the detail I wanted in my Enzo build.

If you plan to go all out, the SMS set has everything you need Nick.

Sorry for getting off topic.

[CADguy]

Originally Posted by Vric

What are you talking about ? this is the first time I talk about the Revell Enzo, and yes, I have one setting here. The only thing I bash one os Testor paint and newbee that can't read

Even if I didn't made a good job on my Tamiya one, The Revell one don't even look close to the detail Tamiya offer. I'm sorry if you love this kit, but well, I guess when you don't know better, revell might be a good kit. But someone that want to buy a 100$ detail set on a 9.99$ model, well it's strange to me.

4120 posts ago you were a newbie that probably asked some questions that seem silly now.
Who appointed you to the "Newbie Police Squad"? If they bother you, don't give them a reply, and move on. But most of your posts to newbies is extremly rude, and uncalled for. You have to remember that kids as young as 13 can join in the fun of AF, and adults being rude to them is a turn off. Have some compassion and answer thier question or don't, but please stop being rude to them. There are many guys here nice enough to answer the questions newbies have.

And I think you did a great job on your Enzo. I think all of your builds are pretty cool. But I do think that since I have built both successfully, I DO know better what I am talking about. And I agree, adding a $125 detail kit to the Revell kit is But if someone were to add the $15 Studio 27 PE details to a Revell Enzo, it might really bring it to life. That definately would be worth a try..

[nick f]

Thank you for all the replies.

Vric, no harm taken, but maybe the rest of the group has a point, ease up a little. I sure wouldn't want to 13 and asking question to have you throw it back in my face.

CADguy, you read my mind. I found the Studio 27 PE set for $11 at Pegasus Hobbies. I think that I will go for that set and play with PE parts. In my mind I cant justify spending $35 for SMS PE parts on a $12 model. Now when I get around to building the Tamiya Enzo then I will spend the extra cash for the SMS PE parts.

And to my second question does anybody make PE parts for the Tamiya 360 Spyder? this model I will be willing to spend a little extra on PE parts.

[Veyron]

Originally Posted by nick f

Thank you for all the replies.

Vric, no harm taken, but maybe the rest of the group has a point, ease up a little. I sure wouldn't want to 13 and asking question to have you throw it back in my face.

CADguy, you read my mind. I found the Studio 27 PE set for $11 at Pegasus Hobbies. I think that I will go for that set and play with PE parts. In my mind I cant justify spending $35 for SMS PE parts on a $12 model. Now when I get around to building the Tamiya Enzo then I will spend the extra cash for the SMS PE parts.

And to my second question does anybody make PE parts for the Tamiya 360 Spyder? this model I will be willing to spend a little extra on PE parts.

There aren't any etch sets specific to the Spider but there are for the Modena Berlinetta and Challenge, made by Acu Stion.

[CADguy]

There is a set made that does have specific parts made for the 360 Spider by Lion Roar.

You can find it here:

http://www.detailanddesigninscale.com/id32.html