Everyone read please. Auto vrs Manuel

[Mayday0017]

Quick simple question. We all agree that most 240's talked about on here either have swaps in them or we want them to have a swap. Alot of people are looking to buy a 240 they just all have a price they are looking to spend and a certin car they have pictured in their head. I have noticed over the past few months that almost no one will buy an automatic 240 to do the swap in. The price from what I have noticed on e-bay is normally over $1,000 less for an auto then a manuel. Why won't anyone buy an auto and do the conversion. Your replacing the tranny anyways so what does it really matter? So you have to spend afew but not many extra $$ and not a whole lot more time and pull off the brake peddal and put a clutch peddal and a smaller brake one in. You also have to make a small hole and install a slave cylender. This is cheap and not very time consuming. So is there something I'm missing in all of this? I mean the ecu is different but you are changing that. But for the most part there really isn't much work to be involved and it saves you money.

[D-Bo]

um it seems to me that the extra work in going from auto to manual is quite extensive.. you just named off an extra 10 hours of labor.. and i personally haven't heard of a 100% successful auto-manual conversion.. there's always 2 or 3 little things wrong

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by D-Bo

i personally haven't heard of a 100% successful auto-manual conversion.. there's always 2 or 3 little things wrong

Lots of guys do it. It is work, but it is quite doable. You have to screw around with the harness as the manual doesn't have the "Park" setting that allows you to start the engine.

[Mayday0017]

It shouldn't take you 10 hours to do the conversion if so you have many problems. All that you have to do is unbolt a pedal and put a new one on for your brake, and then dill the holes out for the new slave cylender and bolt it up ans screw on the cluch pedal. This is like MAYBE an hour's worth of work when your doing the swap cause do this part when there is not engine in the engine bay.

[D-Bo]

Originally Posted by thegladhatter

Lots of guys do it. It is work, but it is quite doable. You have to screw around with the harness as the manual doesn't have the "Park" setting that allows you to start the engine.

i'm just saying i've never heard of a flawless swap..

Originally Posted by Mayday0017

It shouldn't take you 10 hours to do the conversion if so you have many problems. All that you have to do is unbolt a pedal and put a new one on for your brake, and then dill the holes out for the new slave cylender and bolt it up ans screw on the cluch pedal. This is like MAYBE an hour's worth of work when your doing the swap cause do this part when there is not engine in the engine bay.

just like gladhatter said, you have to do electrical work too.. you're not even including all the steps in this process.. maybe its not 10 hours but for somebody doing it themselves its not an easy job..

to answer the original question, again, since manual is more desirable when adding forced induction, people don't want to do the extra work.. probably mostly because its not as much work as they think but paradoxically also because its a lot of work.. you know what i mean? it IS extra time and money..

[driftking777]

I can say that my car originally was a auto and it was switched...the only problem that i have is the auto overdrive button next to the hazard and defrost button turns on and blinks when the car is started...(will be fixed later when a nice switch is put in) My friend also did a auto to manny swap on his 92 240sx he said that it wasnt hard but he wouldnt want to do it again "it was a big pain in the ass" that was his quote...dunno why he thought so but he did.

[sidewayzS13]

i went from a auto KA to a manual sr20 so what is this talk about no one successfully doing it and yes the guy who did it for me said it was a pain in the ass

[AWDSR20]

my 240 was an auto with the KA, now its manual with the SR, no problems what so ever....

[D-Bo]

well those are the first i've heard...

[LaYzIeNoY]

i think its easier to do with an engine swap becuase you have an empty bay to work with and the tranny is out

i believe that its easier to work with when you change motors becuase the ECU is also changed dealing with the electrical problem

there is a guide to do it online, and i was even considering doing it my auto 240sx but i was able to find a shell for real cheap for my swap

[Mayday0017]

Please post a link to that. I would like to prove that point very much. Because there are alot of people running from auto's when they should take advantage of the lower price that they have since they are doing the swap anyways. Besides you end up saving money and having new parts instead of old used parts ALWAYS A PLUS.

[D-Bo]

well there's doing the auto/manual swap when you're swapping engines at the same time but then there's doing the auto/manual swap and keeping the KA in the engine bay.. i understand that its not a hell of a lot of work but it still costs time and money.. i personally would probably hold off on buying a car if it was auto just cause i wouldn't want to go through the song and dance of making it manual.. i'd say just be patient and you'll eventually find a 5-speed for cheap

[sidewayzS13]

hmm speaking of buying manual 240's if anyone lives in the florida panhandle ive seen about 2 manual 240s for sale in the past week i can get the phone # of the seller if anyone is interested

[SHIFT_KA24DE]

altering the car from it's manufactured state will heavily unbalance the car, especially if it's something big like a tranny swap. it's possible but i'd say cars like that won't last as long. A few years down the line you're going to start seeing problems and the stability of the car won't be as clean cut as it was before. That's just my 2 cents...

like everyone said... it's a pain in the ass... hence, most people would like to wait for a cheap manual to come along if they kept their hopes up long enough. i got my 5-speed for a good price... heck i had to wait, but it was worth it.

[thegladhatter]

Originally Posted by SHIFT_KA24DE

altering the car from it's manufactured state will heavily unbalance the car, especially if it's something big like a tranny swap. it's possible but i'd say cars like that won't last as long. A few years down the line you're going to start seeing problems and the stability of the car won't be as clean cut as it was before. That's just my 2 cents....

That is totally inaccurate! The tranny comes from the same car...goes back ing the same type of car...it won't adversely effect anything. That is absurd.