Radiator upgrade

[eillob]

My engine combo has far exceeded the ability of my stock radiator so its time to look for a better one. So if anyone has any input please let me know the best brand, maybe whos got the best deal.

Also will a 93 style aftermarket work and whats the difference between a 2 row and a 4 row, which is better?

[HiFlow5 0]

I have had many different radiators. FMS brass 3 core, Fluidyne alum 3 core, and FMS heavy duty wide 2 core alum.

I didn't like the FMS brass, didn't really do and adequate job. The Fluidyne split on me, expensive set back, and the FMS alum ownz all! It is by far the best radiator I've tried yet.

[silverstangs]

Originally Posted by eillob

My engine combo has far exceeded the ability of my stock radiator so its time to look for a better one. So if anyone has any input please let me know the best brand, maybe whos got the best deal.

Also will a 93 style aftermarket work and whats the difference between a 2 row and a 4 row, which is better?

I like the Fluidyne alum 3 core but sometimes the fitmit was a bit tight. Like the bottom pegs was off by 1/2inch, so I ended up taking the rubber grommets off, which then made the radiator sit in the frame. Might or might not be a issue.

I would also suggest a electric water pump.

[eillob]

The Fluidyne split? They gotta lot of nerve asking what they want for one of those for it to split. What did you end up doing did they offer to replace?

Silverstang why do you suggest an electric water pump were there fitment issues with the new radiator?

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally Posted by eillob

The Fluidyne split? They gotta lot of nerve asking what they want for one of those for it to split. What did you end up doing did they offer to replace?

Silverstang why do you suggest an electric water pump were there fitment issues with the new radiator?

My money was refunded in full from where I bought it.

[silverstangs]

Originally Posted by eillob

Silverstang why do you suggest an electric water pump were there fitment issues with the new radiator?

No fitment issues.......
But here are the reason's why..

The electric water pump maintains a costant flow of fluid that does not increase or decrease because of engine rpm. You can set the flow rate with a variable speed controller, so you can actually adjust the flow based on the needs of your engine. You can run your standard pulley's, because your gonna gain 10~18hp depending on RPM with the electric water pump.

With higher RPM's, you get cavitation, which decreases the amount of fluid being moved by the belt driven water pump. The electric ones don't have that issue.

The belt driven one can create enought flow to bust your heater core. The electric one's again are adjustable.

It's a stealthy mod, most people don't even see it.

Stick with the Meziere extreme duty pumps, the others are for the race track.

[HiFlow5 0]

Originally Posted by silverstangs

I like the Fluidyne alum 3 core but sometimes the fitmit was a bit tight. Like the bottom pegs was off by 1/2inch, so I ended up taking the rubber grommets off, which then made the radiator sit in the frame. Might or might not be a issue.

I would also suggest a electric water pump.

I would not suggest an electric water pump on a street driven car. No need for it.

[eillob]

I've kind of frowned on electric water pumps myself. I agree with Highflow I think there a little much for a steet car. Plus I've heard there hell on the cars electrical system but I appreciate your input. All the prices I've found for one are between $375 and $575. Is this about the going rate.

Can I get a 93 mustang radiator to fit in my 94?

[silverstangs]

Originally Posted by HiFlow5 0

I would not suggest an electric water pump on a street driven car. No need for it.

It's not meant for everyone, just the hard core crazy people. We did dyno one which was a before and after dyno. The electric water pump went from 1-3hp more than the UD pulley and 2-4tq more than the ud pulleys. That was dependant on the rpms, and leveled off around 4500rpm. I would say that most people will see about 8hp from UD pulley's alone, and up to 12hp with a electric water pump alone on the modular engines. If anyone hit's a 18hp gain, then they probally had a water pump that was going bad and giving extra resistance, or they have a big block with a big water pump and impeller.

Originally Posted by eillob

I've kind of frowned on electric water pumps myself. I agree with Highflow I think there a little much for a steet car. Plus I've heard there hell on the cars electrical system but I appreciate your input. All the prices I've found for one are between $375 and $575. Is this about the going rate.

I used to frown on electric water pumps, but after installing several of them in different cars, they have changed my opinion.(all modular engines) As far as being hell on the electrical system, We didn't see any difference with the electrical system. It's around 7 maybe 8 amps max at full volume. Most aftermarket stereo amps pull more juice. Most people won't even run the pump at full volume, and I think we was a bit closer to about 50%~60% of the max flow rate. The coolant was cooler according to the infra red thermonitor, about 12 degrees cooler at idle.

I have not see any electric water pump for less than $350 that was designed specifically for a car. I have seen "Universal" ones that can be bought for less than $250. There is a new one that is out that I am thinking about trying. It's made by a company called Davis Craig. They make a EWP that is a little cheaper than the other companies. The issue is that they are using a "Universal" design, but it can run continuous.
http://www.daviescraig.com.au/main/display.asp?pid=8

I don't really like universals, I prefer something specifialy designed for a application, but I do like to try different things to see how they work. Besides, if I don't experiment, who will.

[silverstangs]

Originally Posted by eillob

Can I get a 93 mustang radiator to fit in my 94?

I would say yes.... but I would suggest you measure the post under the radiator. They stick into the frame when the radiator is sitting in the car. I also don't remember if the 94's had the degas tank on top like the 99+ modular's do. But then again, it might be like the V6 mustangs.

[stang_racer20]

I picked up a Griffin Aluminum universal fit, 31" x 19" for like $190 from Summit. 2 row, 1 inch tubes. Cools great! Fit almost perfect w/ some mild mods to the upper brackets. I'm not sure if the style is different from fox's to sn's, but either way good bang for the buck.

[eillob]

Well I found an AFCO universal radiator for about $180. I didn't know griffin made a universal or I would have gotten it. O well I'll take some pics when its finished and let everyone know how it turned out.

[SVTcobra306]

Hey man, search on the corral, there's been a few guys who have done universal and fox radiators in SN95s and there are a few good threads with some good instructions and pics.

I went with a fluidyne, it bolted in and no problems (yet, 6 months, 5000 miles). I have heard others complain of a fluidyne splitting, but I've also heard of others having excellent luck.

[eillob]

Originally Posted by SVTcobra306

Hey man, search on the corral, there's been a few guys who have done universal and fox radiators in SN95s and there are a few good threads with some good instructions and pics.

I went with a fluidyne, it bolted in and no problems (yet, 6 months, 5000 miles). I have heard others complain of a fluidyne splitting, but I've also heard of others having excellent luck.

Thanks man I'll check it out.

[eillob]

Hey, the AFCO radiator arrived today. Very impressed with the quality of this tank. I'll take pics before I get started. Looks like the AC is going bye, bye I dont think there will be room for both the new radiator and the AC radiator. I guess thats the price you pay for performance.