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f20b accord?

anyone in the US have a f20b DOHC installed in their 6th gen accord? I'm looking at swaps for my 99' lx, and don't want to do the usual h22a swap... trying for something more original.. is there any difference in body weight on the euro accord vs the USDM version? how strong is the f20b as for as boosting (I know the CR is 11:1), and N/A tuning purposes? thanks for the info..
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Re: f20b accord?

no-one knows anything about the f20b?
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Re: f20b accord?

i know my friend has it in his 95' accord, but other than the original facts, 2.0l 200hp@7200rpm, i really do not know anything about this motor, i will ask my friend and see what all he knows, i will try to get back to ya.
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The F20B is a destroked H22A, so there will be no advantage through weight differences. The reason the F20B's rated at the same 200HP the H22A is rated at, is the higher compression pistons (11.0:1) and a better flowing intake manifold, to make up for the loss in displacement; yet still, torque is lost, so the H22A is still the better motor in the end. If you're considering boosting, the F20B is NOT the way to go, since the stock compression is so high.

Not to rain on your parade, but it'd be extremely smart to opt for an H22A over an F20B. The benefits of an H22A outweight those of an F20B by far.

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Re: f20b accord?

yeah, my friend is considering selling his f20, for the JDM h22a (225hp) simply because there is alot more performance upgrades for the car, so if you wanna swap in an H series motor, do not go with the usdm h22, definatly go with the JDM h22a, and not the h22 that came in the bb4s, you want the bb6.
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Re: f20b accord?

225HP??? since when? I could have sworn a stock H22a only puts out 210HP(crank) tops.. anyways, I'm looking for something a bit different from the ordinary H22/23 install.. F20B looked like a decent alternative.. DOHC, 2.0 litre putting out 200HP.. High compression ,yes.. but with some lower CR pistons, rods, and some valvework, I was looking to turbo it.. somewhere around 270-300HP. I'm just trying to find out some specifics about the block.. is it an open, or closed deck, how strong are the stock sleeves? how well does the head flow? any major issues other than the compression for boost purposes?
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225HP??? since when? I could have sworn a stock H22a only puts out 210HP(crank) tops.. anyways, I'm looking for something a bit different from the ordinary H22/23 install.. F20B looked like a decent alternative.. DOHC, 2.0 litre putting out 200HP.. High compression ,yes.. but with some lower CR pistons, rods, and some valvework, I was looking to turbo it.. somewhere around 270-300HP. I'm just trying to find out some specifics about the block.. is it an open, or closed deck, how strong are the stock sleeves? how well does the head flow? any major issues other than the compression for boost purposes?
He must be talking about the JDM Type-S H22 (220hp). Anyway, since you're going to turbo the thing, I still don't understand why you're going F20B over H22A. The H22A is lower compression to begin with so its more friendly to boost. You'll also get more gains from boosting an H22A because of its higher displacement. The stock sleeves on the F20B/H22A are relatively weak by nature, so resleeving is almost essential for boosting more than like 12psi. As for whether it is closed or open deck. I would guess open, since the F20B was released the same generation as the 97-01 H22's, which were also open deck. The only closed deck h22's were 92-96. If you decide to go H22, you should try and find a 96 h22 (which might be a bit tough, since most jdm h22's for sale are 92-95). Since you won't have to convert the obd, and you'll have the added bonus of a closed deck.

Good luck to you, and keep us posted on your project.
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Re: f20b accord?

yeah sorry i was talking about the JDM h22a.
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yeah sorry i was talking about the JDM h22a.
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I think if you want a swap different from everybody else and you want to swap for an H series go for the H23a7 I think that's the number from the JDM euro accord 225 ponies.
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Re: f20b accord?

f20b is the way to go i have a stock f20b with the h22 lsd tranny with a stage 3 6 puk racing clutch and i mash on h22's all day long f20b is the shit
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f20b is the way to go i have a stock f20b with the h22 lsd tranny with a stage 3 6 puk racing clutch and i mash on h22's all day long f20b is the shit
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Re: f20b accord?

hi i was just reading all of your messages but whats the difference on the mounts for the f20b and the jdm h22a??? which one is the most simplest to drop in a 6th gen accord thats my biggest concern. as you can tell im new at this im more of a car stereo and custom body work type of a guy. so all i need to know how hard is it to drop a f20b or a h22a in a 6th gen accord i just need any or all info to do a swap if possible.
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hi i was just reading all of your messages but whats the difference on the mounts for the f20b and the jdm h22a??? which one is the most simplest to drop in a 6th gen accord thats my biggest concern. as you can tell im new at this im more of a car stereo and custom body work type of a guy. so all i need to know how hard is it to drop a f20b or a h22a in a 6th gen accord i just need any or all info to do a swap if possible.




its the same the only difference is the f20b comes stock with a stroker kit in it. thats the only differencs it has more power than an h22 but there identical h22 has black valve cover f20b has blue but f20 is the way to go
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The F20B and the H22A bolt in exactly the same. They use the same mounts because they are part of the same "series". It should be a pretty direct bolt swap into a 6th gen Accord (assuming the Accord is a 4cyl to begin with)

crxfiend4life is wrong. An F20B is NOT an H22A with a stroker kit. It is the complete opposite. It is a DESTROKED H22A (How could it have a stroker kit if the displacement is in fact SMALLER). It does NOT have more power than the H22A.
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