10 Rice Commandments

[AlexB]

Damn so many idiots have come into this forum lately... I read a lot of crap and all i gotta say is -- DAMN. Got a little bored tonight so I decided to write something up for these idiots that think they're hot shit in their A4 altezza civics with fart pipes and home-made stickers on them.


1. Thee displacement plus compression with good flow equals power (with the exception of really high boosts wich YOU dont have the money to run).

2. Front Wheel Drive: the faster you goeth, the lesseth traction yee have.

3. Thou shall NEVER beat a V8 with something that has less displacement as long as both engines have roughly the same modifications unless the driver is intoxicated or not even racing.

4. Thou shall not sticker your vehicle.

5. Thou Honda shall be slow unless yee haveth 20-30 grand to waste on an econo box.

6. Money equals speed and vice versa.

7. Thou are not a "street racer," unless thou are severely ill in the head.

8. Thou shall not come up with street racing stories just to look cool.

9. Thou will cease comparing economy and family import cars to any real sports cars.

10. Thou will learn to drive stick shift; and with smooth shifting and syncronized simultaneous acceleration/declutching as to not make me puke when you give me a ride to school because I made you my Bitch of the Week.



I had some other good ones but whatever keep adding them!

[Neutrino]

You calling my story fake?That viper had no change against my civic ex with a custom cat back.
It's an Outrage I say an Outrage!!!

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by AlexB
1. Thee displacement plus compression with good flow equals power (with the exception of really high boosts wich YOU dont have the money to run).

2. Front Wheel Drive: the faster you goeth, the lesseth traction yee have.

3. Thou shall NEVER beat a V8 with something that has less displacement as long as both engines have roughly the same modifications unless the driver is intoxicated or not even racing.

4. Thou shall not sticker your vehicle.

5. Thou Honda shall be slow unless yee haveth 20-30 grand to waste on an econo box.

6. Money equals speed and vice versa.

7. Thou are not a "street racer," unless thou are severely ill in the head.

8. Thou shall not come up with street racing stories just to look cool.

9. Thou will cease comparing economy and family import cars to any real sports cars.

10. Thou will learn to drive stick shift; and with smooth shifting and syncronized simultaneous acceleration/declutching as to not make me puke when you give me a ride to school because I made you my Bitch of the Week.



I had some other good ones but whatever keep adding them!

okay now my arguments to these...
1. true, EXCEPT for technology. tech can make up for a higher displacement, but lesser techologically advanced. case in point: late 80s chevy 350, roughly 200 hp. modern honda prelude, roughly 200 hp. both stock.

2.ture, no argument. thats why i got awd.

3.i beat v8s with MUCH MORE modifications than i have on a weekly basis in my stock 4 cylinder.

4.that all depends on personal taste. i dont mind a few stickers (of products u actually have) but dont go overboard. however its their car, and of they wanna sticker it up then go for it.

5.93 civic hatchback=$1200, b18c1 powerplant from wrecked gsr=$1000, various bolt ons and other engine mods(headers, intake, open b pipe, crank pulley, flywheel, clutch, fuel pump, injectors, cams, cam gears, ported head, ignition, fuel pressure riser)=$2000, 120 shot of nitrous=$600, 2 e/t drag slicks=$200. that adds up to a $5000 12 second car, not just barely 12s either, WELL into the 12s.

6.true again, no argument

7.there are different types of "street racing". replace the words "street racer" with "traffic racer" and ill have no argument.

8.true again, no argument

9.true again, but that goes both ways, meaning domestic guys should stop comparing camaros and corvettes to civics and accords and saying imports suck because of that. compare them to a REAL import sports car and u got a fair comparison.

10.true again, except I AINT YO BITCH FOO'! :finger:

[student_anonymous]

This is for all the kids.

Commandment #11:
Get rid of the fart muffler, you're not faster with it.

Commandment #12:
Stop spending Daddy's money on a stupid Honda. Sink the money
into a Camaro or a T/A and get some REAL power.

:alien:

[LjasonL]

Originally posted by student_anonymous
This is for all the kids.

Commandment #11:
Get rid of the fart muffler, you're not faster with it.

Commandment #12:
Stop spending Daddy's money on a stupid Honda. Sink the money
into a Camaro or a T/A and get some REAL power.

:alien:

11.i dont think my muffler makes me faster at all, but it looks better than the stock one. i also dont like the chainsaw sound, thankfully my flat 2.5 sounds a lot deeper and rumbly, more v8ish than 4 cylinderish. but even so i keep the silencer in it most of the time.

12.i spend my OWN money on my car than has beaten a few camaros and t/a's

[AlexB]

Originally posted by ldelaysionl


okay now my arguments to these...
1. true, EXCEPT for technology. tech can make up for a higher displacement, but lesser techologically advanced. case in point: late 80s chevy 350, roughly 200 hp. modern honda prelude, roughly 200 hp. both stock.


3.i beat v8s with MUCH MORE modifications than i have on a weekly basis in my stock 4 cylinder.

Ok for your number 1... those cars had a shitty power beacause of no compression due to emmission regulations. That's why i said displacement PLUS compression and flow equals power... Oh yea and "tech" is in new muscle cars too buddy. But what kind of tech are you talking about? Look at a Chevy LS6 making 405hp stock. You cant freaking compare a 70's small block with a 90's high compression rice engine that's nearing its maximum potential.

For number 3, what "stock" 4 cylinder car are you running and what modified V8 are you running against?

And I meant most of the stuff in general terms not cut and dry becuase obviously if you want to throw money on stuff like traction you can get it on fwd. And the sticker thing, yes I agree some is alright but not the ones that go apeshit with vinyl.

Oh yea and I'd love to know where you find a 93 civic for $1300 and no I'm sorry nitrous is a ghetto way out. You're going to need at least a T3/T4 and some 10.5:1 compression pistons on that civic buddy running race gas. Obviously if you need an engine swap to make your car go fast, that's SORRY. I'd rather swap my car than the engine in it... and I know all these kids that think they're running 12's but they're actually in the 15's.

:smoka:

As far as I can remember, displacement's dominated at the track.

[RiceRocket]

i got a couple...

13. Thou shalt not port and polish they exhaust tip
14. Thou shalt not spit on another car just because it's rice, we're all import fans together ---- rice or not

[Nxtyoung]

3.i beat v8s with MUCH MORE modifications than i have on a weekly basis in my stock 4 cylinder.

5.93 civic hatchback=$1200, b18c1 powerplant from wrecked gsr=$1000, various bolt ons and other engine mods(headers, intake, open b pipe, crank pulley, flywheel, clutch, fuel pump, injectors, cams, cam gears, ported head, ignition, fuel pressure riser)=$2000, 120 shot of nitrous=$600, 2 e/t drag slicks=$200. that adds up to a $5000 12 second car, not just barely 12s either, WELL into the 12s.

First oh number 3 i think you just proved AlexB right. The drivers of the V8's are either drunk or not raceing or bad drivers. I'm sorry there are NO STOCK 4 cylinders that could beat a V8
As for number 5, show me the sites or the catalogs to get headers, intake, open b pipe, crank pulley, flywheel, clutch, fuel pump, injectors, cams, cam gears, ported head, ignition, and fuel pressure riser all for $2000. might want to go back to basics of math.

[AlexB]

Anyway why would you want to do an engine swap and totally rebuild the engine when you can get a V8 and just improve flow a little and BANG you're done.

[LjasonL]

yeah i know modern v8s will beat most modern 4 cylinders, but thats why i said technology, a modern 4 cylinder can beat a lot of 80s v8s.

about 5:00 this afternoon i raced a chevy truck with a 350 swapped in, flowtech headers, k&n air filter, crane cams, and a welded rear end, i beat him by 1 1/2 lengths, its the 6th or 7th time ive beat this guy. i have an air intake and a universal muffler on a stock catback piping. i beat a lot of v8 trucks and older v8 camaros and mustangs with more mods than i have.

when i traded in my 93 civic hatchback the trade in value for it was $1200 so thats where i got my numbers on that. u cant get all those parts new for $2000, but some shopping around on ebay and stuff and its possible. even if you bought them all new its still gonna be less than $4000, so $7000 total for a 12 second import. also when i named those prices it was doing all the installation myslef and even porting the heads myself. as for the open b pipe, just run open headers.

[AlexB]

Trucks are heavy. AND LIKE I SAID, late 70's and 80's V8's WERE SLOW BECAUSE THEY HAD LOW COMPRESSION. That's like saying I can beat a model T on my bicycle. And is your impreza isn't turbo right? Well anyway what is it like 200hp?++ Add that with AWD and of course you're going to smoke a lot of stuff out there especially if they're heavy or the driver isnt that great.

[MaFi0s0]

im not writing anyone off, or dissing anything or anyone, but i have been reading too much import vs domestic stuff on this board and i think its about time i put my 2 cents in, some of these replys may be just as stupid as the statements but i dont care, as the saying goes a stupid question deserves a stupid answer.

as for my view on rice, imports and domestics, i respect all cars, i prefere imports though because there style apeals to me more and i see them as a good challenge to get them to beat v8s.


i dont mind a showcar that has clearys a rear spoiler lowered exhust, but if it is set up to LOOK fast as if its king shit on the road but the guy hasnt even modded the engine or races it then i find something wrong with that.

and there is a reason for a "fart pipe", it adds anywhere from 5-50HP and it can give u better milage, in australia alot of cars, including some family cars have aftermarket exhusts fitted.

1. Thee displacement plus compression with good flow equals power (with the exception of really high boosts wich YOU dont have the money to run).

boost cant be as expensive as the petrol the v8 drinks over afew years time, and turbo is a cheap and good way to get horsepower

2. Front Wheel Drive: the faster you goeth, the lesseth traction yee have.

actually the faster you accelerate the less traction u have.

3. Thou shall NEVER beat a V8 with something that has less displacement as long as both engines have roughly the same modifications unless the driver is intoxicated or not even racing.

not true, displacement isnt everything, 4bangers are lighter, more agile, less sluggish, more like a motorbike, and everyone knows motor bikes are faster than cars, but they dont have much displacement.

4. Thou shall not sticker your vehicle.
should i take off the badges aswell?, stickers can make a car look nice, just cause it doesnt suit your tastes doesnt mean you gotta be against it

5. Thou Honda shall be slow unless yee haveth 20-30 grand to waste on an econo box.

what about an engine replacement or turbo.

6. Money equals speed and vice versa.
obviously

7. Thou are not a "street racer," unless thou are severely ill in the head.
if you race in the street your a streetracer.

8. Thou shall not come up with street racing stories just to look cool.
unless there true


9. Thou will cease comparing economy and family import cars to any real sports cars.
though shalt cease comparing v8s with 4bangers

i really cant understand the point of comparing domestics and imports, there 2 dif classes, yes they can race, any of them is capable of winning, it all depends on the engine and mods and condition of the car not the displacement, even though displacement is pretty important.

why not compare GT cars and F1 cars.

[LjasonL]

u didnt say v8 cars, u said v8's. so i said i can beat a lot of v8s. i can beat v8 crown victorias too.

[AlexB]

Well this big crane from NASA that carries the space shuttle to the launch pad has something like 200 or more V12s in it. I raced that in my Adidas 10.5s and smoked it by 2 rocket-lengths. Damn I'm fast.

[AlexB]

The more displacement you have, the more the modifications will effect the performance.

Let's take a look at what displacement means... it means you will have more air and more fuel in your engine. This can also be achieved by turbocharging or supercharging.

Now I dont understand why the hell you would compare a modified engine to a non modified engine. Throw some turbos on the V8.... blow 15psi on a 2L engine and on a 5.7L engine. Which one will have more power? No import will ever touch something like a drag domestic. I've seen drag imports get into 8's. Well the record is somewhere in the low 4's and it sure as hell wasnt with a civic on FWD.

I'm not saying a 4 banger cant go fast. I'm saying V8's have way more potential. If you know what you're doing and you have the money, you can make them fly but they will still plateau off somewhere because of their lack of displacement.