How fast is a 2002 WS6 ragtop 0-60 and 1/4mile completely stock?

[Porsche_Daddy]

Thanks

[FormulaLT1]

0-60. around 5.1-5.5 and 1/4 around 13.2-13.6. But perfect run could see 12's with the help of slicks.

[Porsche_Daddy]

Thankyou. How much time does the 4 spd auto tranny cost the the typical F-bod compared to the manuals? One more thing, does a 02 WS6 have 320 hp?

[silver87ta]

325 hp, actually.

[KSnake9999]

Scuttlebutt I've heard, is that ragtops aren't structurally as stable as a hardtop, causing chassis flex off the line. I suppose that only matters if you're going for pure performance.

[importeater38]

Originally Posted by KSnake9999

Scuttlebutt I've heard, is that ragtops aren't structurally as stable as a hardtop, causing chassis flex off the line. I suppose that only matters if you're going for pure performance.

I also heard rag tops are a little heavier cuz of the mechanics of the top.
That should show em down too..no?

[Mr. Luos]

The convertible is going to be 300-350 pounds heavier than the t-top car. That alone is enough for a .3 second loss.

I would say with an average driver, and a 6-speed car, the vert would run 13.5 or so completely stock. Drag Radials would get it into really low 13's, and slicks would snap the rear-end.
If is was an automatic, expect high 13's/low 14's.

[FormulaLT1]

Originally Posted by Porsche_Daddy

Thankyou. How much time does the 4 spd auto tranny cost the the typical F-bod compared to the manuals? One more thing, does a 02 WS6 have 320 hp?

Auto's LS1 despite losing more power threw the drivetrain and having a lower top speed deliver consistantly lower 1/4 mile and 0-60 times and how did we all get started on the Conv vs hardtop discussion?

[Mr. Luos]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

Auto's LS1 despite losing more power threw the drivetrain and having a lower top speed deliver consistantly lower 1/4 mile and 0-60 times and how did we all get started on the Conv vs hardtop discussion?

With a higher stall converter, yes. Stock they don't.
And the title of the thread got me, said something about ragtop, which I figured meant convertible.

[FormulaLT1]

stock for stock. Auto's are faster, even with the stock stall. I have seen it a million times. I have even posted vids of them racing. Auto deliver quicker shifts without the need to release the gas. and has a stronger first gear. it wins 9 out of ten times but if you like just search the forum. I have submitted proof as well as witnessed it first hand although if we were talking a 2.73 equiped auto vs the 3.42 equiped stick no the auto will lose but since all 02 Ws6 auto's got 3.23's that wouldn't be a issue here.

[Mr. Luos]

All 98+ 6-speed's are the 3.42 gears. There was an option to have the 3.23's in the auto, but most came with the 2.73's.

Sounds like the guys you are watching race with the M6's need to learn how to shift.
I have never had a problem with an auto car unless it was equiped with an aftermarket stall. Granted, they can't mis-shift, the only advantage that I can see the auto having.

Don't get me wrong, I believe the auto is better for drag racing. Much more accurate shifts, no chance of mis-shifting, with a good stall they can be launched HARD.
But I would never trade off my M6. Too much fun to drive.

Either way, the race would be close. If the M6 driver makes an error, game over. The auto in the LS1 powered F-Body's is pretty decent at not losing the power through the drivetrain, so it keeps them pretty even.

[FormulaLT1]

were in my statement did you see me say that any 4th Gen (-93 which came with 3.23's) 6 speed F-body came with any gear other than 3.42's and do some research WS6 Auto's didn't come with 2.73's. and a stick with a perfect driver should be able to take a Auto but how many perfect runs do you or any other stick driver you know make(not many). A auto deliver's more consistantly low 1/4 mile times and 0-60 times. that is what I said and stick by. no were did I say in a perfect world is the stick not a faster car.

[Mr. Luos]

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

were in my statement did you see me say that any 4th Gen (-93 which came with 3.23's) 6 speed F-body came with any gear other than 3.42's

I never said that you said that.
I was just mentioning it.

Originally Posted by FormulaLT1

and do some research WS6 Auto's didn't come with 2.73's.

Sorry, I was just referring to the F-Body's.


Look, not trying to piss you off or anything, we just have varying opinions on this. I hang out with a lot of F-Body guys, and some really good driver's. I know a guy that runs 12.5's here with a full head and cam car. Runs with the M6. 4.56 gears. Been threw many clutches though. Riding with this guy is amazing. Makes the M6 feel like an auto.

And there is another friend of mine whos wife had a '02 WS.6 for a while. We both had the exact same mods, lid and cat-back. Same brand even. He was driving the car, and I was driving mine. He couldn't get anything better than a 14.84 with the auto. I was hitting 14.5 all day with my M6 and a slipping clutch. He was even getting off the line better, constant 2.1 60' times to my 2.2's. Maybe I just can drive the car a bit better than most. I just can't seem to get her off the line.

Anyways, night time for me. I shall return later!

[FormulaLT1]

I'm not getting pissed, I live to debate shit like this and I actually prefer a stick to a Auto (all my vettes I had to date were stick) but auto has alot of adavantages they are often over looked and your car is hot anyway. Talk to ya soon and welcome to the forum/
John

[KSnake9999]

Yes, that's why I bought an auto for my V6. There were two FBirds side by side in the lot- a blue stick 01 with 100,000 miles on it...or a green auto 98 with 33,000...hmm, not too hard of a choice.

Speaking of...my bird has a strange green-metallic paint with a yellow tint underneath it (only visible when hood is popped, you can see overspray or when the sun hits it just right). I've YET to see another GM car in the same color...and the dealer can't find the paint code? It's beautiful (will post pic later), but causing me problems for getting the paint touched up.