Sick of the H2 bashing!

[Elk]

If you want to rag on people who buy H2s and never take them off-road go for it, but I'm sick of people saying H2s can't handle off-roading and that they are just Tahoes with a different body and big tires.

This article shows the H2 is not a Tahoe and GM put a lot of work into making the H2 one of best SUVs you can buy for off-roading.

Here is a video of stock H2s running the same trails as modified Jeeps, Toyotas and Land Rovers

Unlike most new SUVs the H2 is designed to perform better off-road then it does on pavement. I like that. Even though most won't use it the way it was designed to be used doesn't change the fact that it's a good vehicle!

[rollin_on13s]

Bravo! Stand for what you believe.
I think that that H2's are puffed-up pieces of marketing boondoggle, but if H2's are what you really like, damn what others think!
If not for consumers like you, we'd all be still be driving the VW Rabbit/Plymouth Horizon/Dodge Omni.

[RickwithaTbird]

Props on coming up with that video.. I watched the whole thing... thats a big middle finger in the face of anybody who says the H2 is just a pretty little sister of the humvee.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by RickwithaTbird

Props on coming up with that video.. I watched the whole thing... thats a big middle finger in the face of anybody who says the H2 is just a pretty little sister of the humvee.

Well, it is.

It is built on the Silverado SS frame and has the power to weight ratio of a Toyota Corolla.

Buy what you like, but don't bitch when people point out legitimate faults in the vehicle. I can show you a video of an H2 doing some VERY light rock crawling and it snaps a tie rod.

[RickwithaTbird]

show it.

[Neutrino]

http://aimforum.net/funnyvideos/KilledIT.wmv

right click save as

there you go

[Elk]

"built on the Silverado SS frame"

This is what I'm geting sick of. Clearly you didn't read the article so hear is a excerpt:

Ride & Handling
The H2’s chassis is a Frankenstein’s monster of GM’s large truck platforms, with a frame that combines a front section from the three-quarter-ton 2500 series, a custom fully boxed middle section and a 1500-series rear section selected to accommodate a five-link coil spring suspension and then fortified for a higher gross vehicle weight rating (GVWR). (The 2500-series rear end uses leaf springs.) The standard front setup is an independent suspension with torsion bars, where the rear axle is solid.

"power to weight ratio of a Toyota Corolla"

The Wrangler Rubicon has about same power to weight ratio too. You see the difference in chassis and drivetrain weight cause......wait, this is retarded, you and everyone on this web site knows why you can't compare a Corolla to an H2. This is just another cheap shot at the H2.

"legitimate faults"
The only legitimate fault I usually hear is that it is too big to go where a Wrangler can. Of course most SUVs are bigger than a Wrangler anyways. The rest of what I hear is baseless H2 bashing.

About the broken tie rod, he probabaly just gave it too much gas. It may have been bad from the factory. The H2s tie rods are not weak they're the same tie rods GM uses on their 3/4 ton trucks.

[Andydg]

Here's one that got stuck in a parking lot.

[DinanM3_S2]

WASHINGTON - Federal regulators are investigating the Hummer H2 after receiving three reports of wheels falling off the vehicle, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Monday.

Involved in the investigation are Hummer H2s from the 2003 and 2004 model years. General Motors Corp. said there are about 59,670 of those on the road.

Four drivers reported problems that were attributed to a fracture in the steering knuckle, which allows the wheels to turn. All said they lost control, including one driver whose H2 veered into oncoming traffic and ended up in a ditch on the other side of the road. In three of the cases, a wheel fell off.

On Oct. 24, 2002, Bee Auto Editor Mark Glover was putting a 2003 H2 through its paces for a Driver's Side review when a wheel came off the vehicle.

Here's his description of what happened:

"My memory is that the next three things occurred in approximately one second:

"The vehicle veered about 45 degrees left without me turning the steering wheel, there was an instant of white-hot fear as I realized I was no longer steering the H2, and then there was a crunching impact on the left side.

"The H2 lurched, nose-down, onto its left front corner, and I remember a terrible grinding sound as I endeavored to keep my nose off the steering wheel. No air bags deployed.

"I somehow unloaded myself from the now-unbalanced H2. The left front tire, wheel and wheel housing had somehow been removed from the vehicle. There they were, resting about 15 feet away from the H2 and a few feet away from a concrete light standard that had been clipped by the left front of the H2."

Until this time, Glover had driven hundreds of vehicles for 31 years without being at the wheel of one that crashed. Glover never found out what caused the wheel to come off, but he said he was willing to give the vehicle another chance.

After the crash in the test Hummer H2, Glover filed a report with NHTSA, something any motorist can do after being involved in a crash that may involve a mechanical problem of unknown origin. Glover checked in periodically with NHTSA over the past couple of years, but heard nothing further about an investigation of the crash in the Bee employee parking lot.

A little over a month ago, however, NHTSA contacted Glover by phone at The Bee and asked a few questions about the 2-year-old crash. Glover asked if a formal investigation was under way, but NHTSA said it was at that time making inquiries into the specific report Glover made after the Hummer crash.

About a week later, NHTSA called and asked if there were any photos of the Hummer crash. Glover said there were photos - taken by Bee photographer Jay Mather - and voluntarily sent them to NHTSA. Again, Glover asked if a formal investigation of the H2 model was under way.

NHTSA repeated that nothing was formal at that time, but that photos of the Glover crash might be helpful in determining a possible cause. NHTSA said it was difficult to confirm aspects of Glover's original report based solely on his verbal recall of the incident.

The Hummer H2, which starts at about $50,000, weighs 6,400 pounds and is one of the largest sport-utility vehicles on the road.

GM said it is cooperating with the new investigation. NHTSA investigations can lead to vehicle recalls.

> http://www.sacbee.com/content/busine...12574968c.html

[2strokebloke]

This is just another cheap shot at the H2.

And the H2 was a cheap shot at the car buying public. Seriously, that much money for something that looks so cheap and plasticy inside, as well as having poor fit and finish, poor visibilty, poor handling and manueverablity, poor gas mileage - and just poor at everything in general - an all around loser.
Perhaps if the H2 weren't such a bad vehicle, less people would be ripping on it for being such a bad vehicle.
From what I've read and heard from H2 owners, they were happy with the looks of the vehicle, and that they were the first on the block to own one, but soon realized that they had been suckered into buying a stinker, thus sales of H2s keep falling, and thus the reputation that the H2 has earned, usually the people who are defending them, don't own them.
The H2, supposedly only took 18 months to be developed from a drawing into a "real" vehicle, the only other vehicle I can think of to be rushed into production so fast to get a profit before the bugs were ironed out was the AMC Gremlin

EDIT: reading some reports right now, apparently the tie rod problem is common, it's common that the H2's front alignment gets "out of whack" very quickly, and that broken tie rods aren't all that uncommon.

[TheSilentChamber]

Hey now, this isnt a gremlin bashing thread, gremlins were great cars.

I dont really have a serious oppinion about the H2, I like the way they look, never drove one though. Most of the people that bash on it are just hipocrits anyway, I'm not worried about it.

[2strokebloke]

Originally Posted by TheSilentChamber

Hey now, this isnt a gremlin bashing thread, gremlins were great cars.

The Pacer was better.

[DinanM3_S2]

I knew I would like Wayne's World the second I saw him driving a Pacer...

[Kurtdg19]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

The H2, supposedly only took 18 months to be developed from a drawing into a "real" vehicle, the only other vehicle I can think of to be rushed into production so fast to get a profit before the bugs were ironed out was the AMC Gremlin

The Ford GT took less. Remember time is your enemy, not your friend. And less time does not reflect a poorer vehicle.

I'm not really a big fan of the H2's either, but hey its their 50k, not mine.

[Jimster]

hypocrites in what sense?


I hate H2's.

I think they're a worthless gimmic that don't hold thier own off road

I think they are hideously ugly things, easily the most vulgar vehicle on the road

I think they are a senseless waste of declining fuel reserves

The fit and finish is terrible for the price that you pay

I think that like all SUV's, that they are a constant danger to other road users, with bumpers that over-ride most other cars crumple zones.


Of the three cars I possess, none of my cars possess those qualities


Point is that the segment for SUV's designed to tackle the great urban jungle was already overcrowded before, AM General should have seen that the H2's be a 15 minute fad, much like the New Beetle or PT Cruiser, they didn't so that's thier problem