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Old 12-13-2004, 11:36 PM
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F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

*DISCLAIMER: all the numbers in this post are used from road and track to keep it more constant*

i just recieved my road and track today and they finally tested the new ferrari f-430. they didn't have the equipment to test skidpad or slalom, so all they did was straight line. so based on 1/4 mile alone, the f-430 not only outguns the gallardo, but also outraces the murcielago and the ford gt. here are the numbers from road and track.

f-430 - 11.7 sec.
GT - 12.2 sec.
Murcielago - 12.0 sec.
Gallardo - 12.3 sec.
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Old 12-14-2004, 01:04 AM
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on motortrend, they got the GT to run a 11.7 at 127mph. the one they tested was the final production version with 550hp. the ones that was on road and track was the prototype which only had 500hp.
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Old 12-14-2004, 08:54 AM
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Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

Oh hands down the F430...it got some real balls on it...

Looks sexy to boot!
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Old 12-14-2004, 03:18 PM
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F430

F430 takes the cake. Car and Driver also tested the F430 and it definatley breezes by the gallardo. It's real fast and is the sexiest, even with big nostrils. Ferrari all the way
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am i the only one who thinks hte F430 to be a very very ugly overly styled ferrari? it looks like its trying too hard to be a enzo. i'm sorry but hte ford GT takes the cake for me. when i saw the ENZO and ford GT in person at the autoshow. i saw the ENZO for like 5 minutes. nice looking car, but didn't wow me like i thought it would. when i went to the ford booth. holy shit!! i was starring at the GT for like 15 minutes with my jaws drop. the GT was just sitting on the rotating pedestale spinning away and i'm just in awwwww. beautiful car in person.
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What happens when a 360 and an Enzo share the same garage for the night? 430!! . Okay maybe it wasn't that funny........but I thought it was .

I do feel where your coming from TatII. Its definately a no brainer to identify where its inspiration came from. But IMO the Modena style is almost apples with the C5. Meaning that the 360 was done so good the first time, it would be absolute madness to change the entire appearance. Some will say the Enzo influenced look is over justice. I say its the best cross without taking to much away from its predecessor.

But I will have to agree with you that the GT takes the cake IMO. Its not as fancy as the 430, but thats one of the main reason I like it. Its got a more sense of rawness to it that appeals to me. Its a BEAST I tell you!

Gallardo and Murcielago? Still easily the most beautiful and classy cars of the bunch.
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Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

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am i the only one who thinks hte F430 to be a very very ugly overly styled ferrari? it looks like its trying too hard to be a enzo. i'm sorry but hte ford GT takes the cake for me. when i saw the ENZO and ford GT in person at the autoshow. i saw the ENZO for like 5 minutes. nice looking car, but didn't wow me like i thought it would. when i went to the ford booth. holy shit!! i was starring at the GT for like 15 minutes with my jaws drop. the GT was just sitting on the rotating pedestale spinning away and i'm just in awwwww. beautiful car in person.

an overly styled ferrari?? it IS a ferrari, they're allowed.

i find it hard to really compare cars like these, coz the chances of me ever gettin behind the wheel for a real good test drive are nil. so i have to outsource my opinion. haha. but here's how i rank them

1. F430
2. GT
3. Gallardo
4. Murcielago

just curious, where's porche in all this?
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Old 12-15-2004, 01:43 AM
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When you reach that level of car, over 100,000 pounds, you can buy what ever you like. There is no right or wrong, there is no better or worse really. You can quote lap times, 0-62 times, whatever. It's personal taste.

I love the 430 to death. When you come down to it, it's a Ferrari. Enough said. IMO, who'd want a Ford or an Audi when you can have a Ferrari?

And as to where Porsche? I don't know but as far as price goes, GT is too expensive, and Turbo is too cheap.

GT2 would be right in there but as I understand it, you want to be a really good driver before you get behind the wheel.
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Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

Well, easy!!! The answer is Ferrari, Ferrari,and Ferrari; taking the 1st, 2nd, and the 3rd spot
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Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

F430. without a doubt. and my decision had nothing to do with the fact that it had the fastest 1/4 mile time.
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Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

by the way, am i the only one that likes the f355, 360 and f430 more than the corresponding f40, f50 and enzo (f60?)
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Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

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But I will have to agree with you that the GT takes the cake IMO. Its not as fancy as the 430, but thats one of the main reason I like it. Its got a more sense of rawness to it that appeals to me. Its a BEAST I tell you!
the reason im not a fan of the ford GT; as opposed to the f430 wich is the latest form of a car that has been evolving since the f355 hit(f355->360->f430), or the murciellago wich is a continuation of what started as the countach (countach->diablo->murciellago/gallardo) [these lineages can arguably be traced back further], the FORD GT is just a shameless attempt to recapture the glory of the past to boost ford sales. the GT40 was genius back in the 60's, and now the new generation of engineers have slapped a new face on it, with some new technology and composites, and it is now fords "halo" car. do u see what i am saying? ferrari and lambo have consistently and persistently put in the hard yards to improve upon their cars which is not what ford have done.
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Old 12-30-2004, 07:15 AM
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Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

Actually, that Road and Track GT 1/4 mile time is further "off the mark" than you think. Motor Trend got a Ford GT to do an 11.2 second quarter mile in their top speed comparison. In that same test the Enzo was about 2 tenths faster.

Wether or not the F430 has another half a second in her waits to be seen, but that would be unbelievably close to Enzo times if it could muster it. I think it may be a couple tenths faster than the 11.7, but just a couple.

That said I will pick the one that is fastest so far, the Ford GT. Largely because it looks better, costs less, goes faster, and I am a Ford nut.
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When i first saw this i thaught it was about a truck! Anyways...I hate fords but the GT is pretty nice...
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Re: Re: F-430 vs. Gallardo/GT/Murcielago

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the reason im not a fan of the ford GT; as opposed to the f430 wich is the latest form of a car that has been evolving since the f355 hit(f355->360->f430), or the murciellago wich is a continuation of what started as the countach (countach->diablo->murciellago/gallardo) [these lineages can arguably be traced back further], the FORD GT is just a shameless attempt to recapture the glory of the past to boost ford sales. the GT40 was genius back in the 60's, and now the new generation of engineers have slapped a new face on it, with some new technology and composites, and it is now fords "halo" car. do u see what i am saying? ferrari and lambo have consistently and persistently put in the hard yards to improve upon their cars which is not what ford have done.
I do understand what your saying, but hey, they gotta restart somewhere. Ferrari and Lambo's are true exotics, it is their nature in upping the bar time and time again. Ford on the other hand, isn't. The Ford GT at least shows there 'wanting' to be noticed (be it good or bad). Besides, the reincarnation of classics seems to be the american solution as we roll into the begining of the next millenium. Maybe there trying to say, hey! We are still hip hop yo! I'm just glad to see some more competition in an already tough crowd. All we need to wait for now is the new Z06
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