Debate Thread

[TheSilentChamber]

Somone throw up a topic and we'll argue about it.

[CivicSpoon]

Current state of Popular Music?

[TheSilentChamber]

Music is the the worst possable form in entertainment. It is mind numbing noise braught on by misconceptions, faulse emotions, and many other things. It is put on by people who had no talent and should be shot on sight.

[animal66]

i would have to disagree, for some people, music is the only thing that gets them thru life. Im kinda like that. i mean people say rappers (eminem comes to mind) influences kids to kill others, and rape thier mom and such; on the contrary, others say music doesnt influence how a person. thinks.... to me both are tragically wrong. I believe that music does influence feelings, however, not to the extent of commiting violence without having to be mentally ill first. i mean, when im sad... slow music usually makes me feel better... a nice tight beat usually starts the day out right.... country music tends to make people depressed...lol... I could basically make a soundtrack of my day...everyday.

About them having no talent.... ok they may not be musically inclined, or even know what a stanza is, but what truly matters is they can make a person change for the better.... make a sad person happy.... a lonley person not as lonley...a mad person calm....etc. coming from a musicians point of view....as long as i make at least one person's day, im happy.... music in general doubles as entertainment, AND therapy...

just my 2 cents

[TheSilentChamber]

Music does influience people to kill and rape there mothers, and more offten than not kill and rape there mothers at the same time. If you would take the time to read the Carson vs. Malony 1973 case in with a little body listend to the Beatles the first time then went on a killing spree targeting only blond hair girls in bikini's you would see my point. All music is bad no matter what kind, who sings it, or what period of time it is from. It all makes people kill and rape there mothers.

[animal66]

it isnt the music alone that does it...its when it makes these people (who already have something wrong...) find someone who thinks the same way they do... or to be pretending... as far as music is concerned, movies should be more of a concern... hearing alone is alot better than visual and hearing...

[TheSilentChamber]

These inocent people have nothing wrong with them and the music makes them kill people. Without music there would be not deaths due to murder. Movies have absolutly nothing to do with the way a person thinks or acts, unless the movie has music in it.

[CivicSpoon]

LOL... Oh man...
I feel that music has to do with emotions. The emotion of the creators and listeners. Music can take all forms, commonly refered to genres. Music can definently manipulate people's emotions into feeling something they hadn't previously felt. This can be both negative and positive. There are loud heavy grinding music that can cause someone who is in a chearful or sad mood to become angry or feel aggression. Yet there is slow mellow music that can cause an angry person to calm down or a sad person to become depressed furthur. As for music being the cause of murder, rapeing your mother; I don't feel it can be blamed on music alone. Music is a form of entertainment and art. If art was to blame for these things as well, then why haven't we all heard of someone killing their father and marrying their mother after reading Othello? Music can also be misinterpreted (sp?) in many ways. Even with the lyrics enclosed with every CD, there is still room to interpretation. As an example I'll use the song Sweet Leaf by Black Sabbath. There were 2 interpretations on the topic of the song; 1 being about marijuana, the other about homosexuality. Such as the lyrics "straight people don't know, what you're about." Now that could either mean straight as in heterosexual or "straight laced" as in someone who doesn't partake in drug and alcohol use. For in a song talking about killing someone, there is no way to know how the composer ment it to mean. It could mean litterly kill someone or it could be tounge in cheek. Another simple example of how music could go either way, bad or good; is the Pied Pipper. On one hand he led the rats from the streets which was a good thing and cleared up the rat infestation. However when he wasn't payed to his liking, he led the rats back into the city and caused chaos, being obviously bad. It depends on the situation and how the artist is showing their vision. Plus music is cool when you're tripping on LSD and can see spirals on the walls and in your head along with the music; so how can that mean music's bad?

[TheSilentChamber]

lol I'm out. I like music too much to try to debate against it. And I thought I could argue anything.

[animal66]

wow....silent chamber....i thought u were serious for a while....one question.....QUOTE: there not be deaths due to murder.....????.....i think u were thinking one thing and typeing another....lol..... another topic someone?

[90civicracer]

Debate on porn, for or against?

[animal66]

When it comes to porn.... i AM the masterdebater.....
i dont think this will be much of an arguement

[TheSilentChamber]

for, go porn

[animal66]

ok i got something.....porn....totally ok....as long as it is with humans or some other inantimate object..... sex with animals is so not right....and it isnt even a turn on!

[TheSilentChamber]

I dont know, I saw two squirls getting it on other day and it kinda turned me on.