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Rear disc without control arms?
Anyone know if I can replace the rear drum's on my 88 without changing the control arms? I havnt ever took of the entire drum assembly or took down a rear disc assembly so I dont know if they use the same type spindle or if the spindle is remeoveable. I'm wanting to keep the control arm because if I replace it I will loose the rear steering, witch I have grown quiet fond of.
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the spindles are different.
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
Are you taking the Trailing Arms or Lower Control Arms?
The Trailing Arms are what hold the disc assemblys. You do not need to change the LCA's when changing the TA, the later models are the same mounts only exception is they use a fork style shock and a cast LCA insted of the ball/socket and stamped metal LCA from our much better 88 rear setup! There was something that Honda did because they thought that US drivers sucked (actually people here were not use to the rear end of FWD cars kicking out like a RWD and the insurance industry killed them). They kept the better 88 LCA in Japan and other markets even through today. I heard that the later model US ITR came with the 'rear steer" LCA, dunno for sure. BUT, Yes, you can change just the disc and not the whole TA but you have to take the full assembly off, spindle and everything. There are some tork bolts that you can see if looking from the back of the TA. I think that you have to pull the hub off too, dont remember fully. A friend did it to save some money at the picknpull. I bought a 88 just for the same reasons, and they are lighter and dont have the stupid door seatbelts. |
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
Yeah I ment trailing arms... sorry, acetone fumes got to me. Yeah I hate the door mounted seat belts also.
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
woot for the 88!
no seatbelt doors, a lot less weight, and passive rear steering.
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over 10 grand in parts, and about 300 hours of labor, and i only spent 3k. and then Katrina filled it with mud. |
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
I second that, woot woot... or would that be woot squared?
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
Passive rear steering? What am I missing out on here?
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
88's had passive rear steering and ITR inspired suspension, they handle better than all the other years but the american market freaked when it was introduced and people kept spinning there cars so honda discontinued it for the american market after 88 and I believe its the only car to ever come with it in america. The way the trailing arms are setup they have an additional link that counters the toe of the wheels so when you go around a corner and the suspension starts to react to the forces of the car the extra link forces the tires to point in the opposite direction of the turn resulting in rear stearing. They are more agile than the 89+.
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
gee i never knew that did all 88's come with it?
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
all crx's and hatchs, I dont know about 4 doors.
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
Well I was going to get a 91' hatch for a toy car, now I think I'll look for an 88....
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
How about squared woot?
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
FUCK!!! my 88 ALMOST spun out!!!! stopped by fire hydrant!.
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
I am mostly sure the trailing arm that was not different, it was the LCA.
Trailing Arms are identical in all the years until later models. If you know How to drive you can get a 88 to do a good drift. 88's Rock!!!!! |
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Re: Rear disc without control arms?
ok am i missing something here? yes u explained the passive rear steering, but wuts this about an extra link??? correct my if i'm wrong, but the rear wheel toe is controlled by the trailing arm compensator. it is at the front end of the trailing arm. is that wut u'r talkin about? i had an 88 dx rex and a 89 Si rex, so i had both styles of rear LCA's and shocks. i never noticed a difference in the LCA's. looked to have the same bushings, mounting points, and links to me. anyone got pics of both? if this really is tru, then i f*ed up swapping off the 88's for the 89's and sending them off to the scrap yard. (89 was totalled) so anyway, yeah if anyone has pics of both, or can paint a pic in my head, so i can see the additional links, that'd be awesome.
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