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Long tube vs Short tube
I've found a set of long tube headers for my 94. Do these really make that much more of a difference? I know they are an improvement but how much? How much torque or horsepower can be lost or gained from this mod?
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Ported Cobra Intake, Ported & polished Windsor Jr heads, K&N, Vortech s-trim, 90mm Lightining mass air meter, 70mm throttlebody,1.7 roller rockers, BBK Long tube headers, offroad H-pipe, Crane cam, main cap girdle, 40 series flowmaster, 3.73 gears, MSD ignition, CGS subframes, A9L PIH kit, SCT custom burned chip, 42lb injectors, 190lph fuel pump, T rex and fuel pressure regulator, AFCO racing radiator (If it doesn't scare the Hell out of you it isn't fast enough) |
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Re: Long tube vs Short tube
I was actually looking to do my exhaust after christmas from the headers back. I was thinking long tube because manufacturer claims are up to 20hp, while with most shorts it is 10-15. I also heard that the difference in sound between shorts and longtubes is night and day.
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Re: Long tube vs Short tube
long-tubes = boatloads of torque, and the benefit only increases with more power mods. i run long-tubes, and i love 'em. when i downshift into low gear and floor it it nails me to the seat, and it's got a 3.08 gear =)
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Well I think Im gonna go for it. I hear they are a PITA to install.
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Ported Cobra Intake, Ported & polished Windsor Jr heads, K&N, Vortech s-trim, 90mm Lightining mass air meter, 70mm throttlebody,1.7 roller rockers, BBK Long tube headers, offroad H-pipe, Crane cam, main cap girdle, 40 series flowmaster, 3.73 gears, MSD ignition, CGS subframes, A9L PIH kit, SCT custom burned chip, 42lb injectors, 190lph fuel pump, T rex and fuel pressure regulator, AFCO racing radiator (If it doesn't scare the Hell out of you it isn't fast enough) |
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Re: Long tube vs Short tube
yeah, but you only have to do it once. if you wanna change your starter do it now... trust me on this.
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-Andy '89 Mustang 5.0 - How fast? i'll know this weekend. '86 Mustang LX - Shortblock is built, now for the rest of it. "Put the subject before the verb, hmm? Fail this class, you will." -Yoda teaches english class. |
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How much more hp and torque can I expect to gain? I presently have chrome BBK shorties. Will there be a noticeable difference? Im looking at spending $400 bucks. I don't mind spending the cash but I don't want 5hp for my touble.
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Ported Cobra Intake, Ported & polished Windsor Jr heads, K&N, Vortech s-trim, 90mm Lightining mass air meter, 70mm throttlebody,1.7 roller rockers, BBK Long tube headers, offroad H-pipe, Crane cam, main cap girdle, 40 series flowmaster, 3.73 gears, MSD ignition, CGS subframes, A9L PIH kit, SCT custom burned chip, 42lb injectors, 190lph fuel pump, T rex and fuel pressure regulator, AFCO racing radiator (If it doesn't scare the Hell out of you it isn't fast enough) |
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Re: Long tube vs Short tube
From what I heard there is a huge difference from stock to long tubes. However, im not sure the difference from shorts to longs. It will probally be 5 (maybe alil more hp) and like 8-10ish torque. If anything you'll notice it will be the sound.
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HMMM. ok thanks for the input. I guess for me Im just trying to see how they would make more power.
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Ported Cobra Intake, Ported & polished Windsor Jr heads, K&N, Vortech s-trim, 90mm Lightining mass air meter, 70mm throttlebody,1.7 roller rockers, BBK Long tube headers, offroad H-pipe, Crane cam, main cap girdle, 40 series flowmaster, 3.73 gears, MSD ignition, CGS subframes, A9L PIH kit, SCT custom burned chip, 42lb injectors, 190lph fuel pump, T rex and fuel pressure regulator, AFCO racing radiator (If it doesn't scare the Hell out of you it isn't fast enough) |
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I personally will not waste my time doing headers unless there LT even on a bone stock 302. As far as the loss of torque from lack of backpressure that people say happens, well I have never expirenced that but actually quite the polar opposite.
The sound and tone your car alone will make form LT is worth the extra cost and pita factor IMO. But I think you will definetly have some seat of the pants feeling from the switch. As far as the PITA factor of install I would say it's not that bad just need to have some patience.
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R.I.P. Hypsi- Andy your one of the best people I ever had the priviledge to know. AF and the world has lost one of the truly wonderful people...
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I did a little surfing and found a test between long and short tube if anyone is interested.
http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/29618/
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Ported Cobra Intake, Ported & polished Windsor Jr heads, K&N, Vortech s-trim, 90mm Lightining mass air meter, 70mm throttlebody,1.7 roller rockers, BBK Long tube headers, offroad H-pipe, Crane cam, main cap girdle, 40 series flowmaster, 3.73 gears, MSD ignition, CGS subframes, A9L PIH kit, SCT custom burned chip, 42lb injectors, 190lph fuel pump, T rex and fuel pressure regulator, AFCO racing radiator (If it doesn't scare the Hell out of you it isn't fast enough) |
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Just read it, article is a little misleading look at the two dyno charts.
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R.I.P. Hypsi- Andy your one of the best people I ever had the priviledge to know. AF and the world has lost one of the truly wonderful people...
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Re: Long tube vs Short tube
hah, i was just aboiut to post that link. i remembered doing a google search on this topic a little while back...
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LT are your only option over stock truly worth exercising on the 4.6.
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R.I.P. Hypsi- Andy your one of the best people I ever had the priviledge to know. AF and the world has lost one of the truly wonderful people...
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