Lotus Elise vs Corvette (base, not Z06), SVT, Lightning, and camaro SS?

[GTO4Life]

anyone?

[NISSANSPDR]

Lotus Elise all day...it outhandles all those cars and is pretty quick...just as quick as the Corvette...slower than the SVT Cobra...but still a elegant tool to carve up mountains with...

[GTO4Life]

Wrong about being slower than the SVT cobra... Have you read the 0-60 times? and the Comparisson they had in a bunch of magazines? The Elise destroyed the Cobra... It even had a track test comparison against the SRT10 Viper. Ofcourse it lost, but not by much. I know the Z06 should be a bit quicker than the Elise, but it would seem the base Corvette would be slower since its at the Cobra level.

[NISSANSPDR]

Ok...

Ford SVT Cobra
$34,750
4.6 seconds to 60 mph
12.9 seconds in 1/4 Mile
0.85g's


vs.

Lotus Elise (as quoted from the same magazie SPEED by R/T...)
$44,460
4.7 seconds to 60 mph
13.4 seconds in 1/4 Mile
0.98 g's

vs.

'05 Corvette (not ZO6)
$43,445
4.3 seconds to 60 mph
12.7 seconds in 1/4 Mile
0.95 g's


Now as much as I love the Elise...you gotta know that it cannot beat these others in the straight line...but it can definitely either beat or hang w/the Vette...the ZO6 will probably win...but it could be a good race...kinda like the Viper vs. Elise race

[GTO4Life]

i believe the Elise does the 1/4 mile in 13.1, i might be wrong but thats what most reviews and magazines are saying. And i thought the elise beat the mustang in all the track comparisons. Oh well... Maybe i got my facts mixed up

EDIT: after searching a bit more i've found in R/T and other sites that the cobra's best 0-60 time is 4.9, and 1/4 mile in 13.4
So im starting to think you mixed up the Elise times with the Cobra times


EDIT AGAIN!!! My mistake... R/T gave it 13.4 1/4 mile. The Elise with the honda engine had 1/4 mile times of 13.1
Once again my mistake... Sorry

[S2CorollaR]

The Elise beat an SVT Cobra R N/A. They pitted it against a Viper sometime later. I don't know if they've pitted an Elise against the supercharged SVT Cobra.

I think an Elise would take this win though, its handling is something not to mess with, and the straight line power at least "hangs" with the other cars in the comparison.

[DinanM3_S2]

Originally Posted by GTO4Life

i The Elise with the honda engine had 1/4 mile times of 13.1
Once again my mistake... Sorry

I hate to do this to you, but the US Spec Elise doesnt have a Honda engine, it has a slightly modified version of the Toyota Celica GT-S...

I dont think 1/4 mile times are a good example of the true ability of the Elise. The Speed magazine test showed that the little Toyota powered Lotus can keep up with a 500 hp giant like the Viper on the track. The track is really where the Lotus feels at home.

[VQuick]

As much as I love the Elise, I'd probably end up going with either the Camaro SS or the 'Vette(C6??). They are more along the lines of the daily driver I'd need. They dont have four doors like I want, but at least they have more space.

Now if it were an Exige, I'd just forget about practicality and go for that instead.

[S2CorollaR]

Yeah they had to swap up to the 2ZZGE engine because the B18CR was discontinued along with the Integra Type R. The 2ZZGE does just as good though, so don't rate it down because of that

Note: I still thought the Elise had the Type R engine too :P

[GTO4Life]

Originally Posted by DinanM3_S2

I hate to do this to you, but the US Spec Elise doesnt have a Honda engine, it has a slightly modified version of the Toyota Celica GT-S...

I dont think 1/4 mile times are a good example of the true ability of the Elise. The Speed magazine test showed that the little Toyota powered Lotus can keep up with a 500 hp giant like the Viper on the track. The track is really where the Lotus feels at home.

The Elise im talking about was the one they tested against the SVT Cobra (supercharged) which had a honda engine. I know the US elise comes with the GT-S engine, i was just talking about an Elise with the honda engine swap.

[drunken monkey]

wasn't that a private engine swap to make it US legal?
y'know, not a proper elise?

or was it a lotus job?

and as far as i know, the engine isn't a modified version of the toyota.
it has a remapped management and different exhaust (naturally) but the engine and gearbox as well i think, are 'stock' units.

[GTO4Life]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

wasn't that a private engine swap to make it US legal?
y'know, not a proper elise?

or was it a lotus job?

and as far as i know, the engine isn't a modified version of the toyota.
it has a remapped management and different exhaust (naturally) but the engine and gearbox as well i think, are 'stock' units.

No, Lotus did some work to the Engine, its not the same as the GT-S engine. The ECU was changed, manifold exhaust system too. They also installed a twin oil-cooler system to improve durability. Thats about it i think

[Moppie]

Lotus never put a Honda enigne in the Elise.
They wanted to but market resurch said it might not be a good think in the very conservative british market.
As a result the Elise got a Rover K series engine.
The engine was orginaly used straight out of the box from Rover, however the new S2 Elise uses a Lotus tweaked version with Lotus cams, head work and ECU.

This enigne was not deemed powerful enough for the US market while still meeting the emissions requirements. So an alternaive was sourced.
While I believe the Honda K series was considered, the Toyota 2zzge engine from the Celica and TS Corrola was used. Most likely because of Lotus's ties to Toyota through GM and previous ownership.


There is a company in the US however who developed a kit to mount the Honda B series into the S1 elise to make to US legal, and offer owners in the rest of the world a more powerful engine option than the Rover K series.
A car developed by this company has been given quite heavy press exposure in the US, but should not be mistaken for a Lotus developed car.
The same company has also developed a kit to fit the new Honda K series engine, as well as doing some resurch into developing ECU and exhaust changes to make well over 240hp.


And if your only interested in 1/4 mile times then you have no interest in buying an Elise.

[kinjox]

???

[crayzayjay]

^ You revived a two month old thread to say that?