two things maybe interesting...

[cabrio92]

Hello,

I hope this thread will not be useless :
1) maybe these two pics are new for you ? for me yes ! I saw these today and it shows the Monaco GP2002 F1 already taken by Edvar :





2) A F1 was spotted today in Paris by someone ! It was on Champs Elysees. the only infos : it is grey with english plates. I cannot actually say if this story is true. For example, I don't know if the car is just passed of stayed in Paris. In the last case, I hope see it.

Ciao
Phil

[Peloton25]

Well this proves my theory that the 'R66 MCL' plated silver F1 with the HDF Kit was the car with the unique rectangular headlamps. I had never seen photos that could confirm this so thanks very much for sharing them Phil. I hope you get to see the car as well.

>8^)
ER

[cabrio92]

Hello,

When I saw the headlamps, I was sure that you would love those pics
For the F1 spotted in Paris, it is not the same, the "spotter" says there is not HDF kit.

Do you have an idea on which f1 would travel in France ?

Ciao
Phil

[Peloton25]

Originally Posted by cabrio92

Do you have an idea on which f1 would travel in France ?

No, but I have about 2 dozen cars that could probably be excluded from the list of possibilities. Basically all the cars in North America.

Lets see - grey/silver F1 with British plates spotted in France. Maybe it was Juan Barazi's car with the blue interior that Chris likes so much? I'm drawing a blank on the suspected chassis # of that one at the moment. Maybe it was Gordon in XP3. There are probably a few more possibilities none of us are aware of.

I really only cover this continent. Someone else, like YOU for instance is going to have to take ownership of tracking down all the cars in Europe. I know you are trying!

Thanks again - very special shots of what is probably a very special F1.

>8^)
ER

[a5678]

Cabrio, thanks indeed for the pics.

[F1 monster]

great pics. the first photo really accentuates the curves adm make sthe car look very powerful and givesit a great road presensce. thankyou. amazing how low i t looiks compared to the benz behind it. altho the camera angle seemst o magnify the effect i am sure it is indieed bvery low.

[cabrio92]

Hello,

thanks for your comments. I don't know who took these pics and I will try to know more

I try to share all informations I have. Unhappily, it is difficult to verify all !
I think this one is connected to McLaren, Mika, Ron ? What is his VIN ?

Ciao
Phil

[mini magic]

Phil, thanks a lot for the new pictures.

[John_T]

How many modified grey F1's is there?
When tvrfreak went to McLaren Cars, Ltd , he saw one a bit similar to this one. license plate was: (049 PF)

Thank you for the pictures.

[amanichen]

Originally Posted by John_T

license plate was: (049 PF)

That's the temporary liscence plate used when cars are in for servicing.

[Peloton25]

Originally Posted by John_T

How many modified grey F1's is there?
When tvrfreak went to McLaren Cars, Ltd , he saw one a bit similar to this one. license plate was: (049 PF)

Thank you for the pictures.

There seem to be two of these silver HDF-kitted F1s - at least that is how many I have seen. There's this one, and Paul Stewart's which was used in the Martin Brundle "Supercars" DVD. I strongly believe that this car is the one on the lift in TVRFreaks photos. If he had taken a shot of the nose of the car, that would have confirmed it, but I am fairly certain I'm correct.

Both of these silver cars are nearly identical, with the biggest difference being those unique headlights that I've never seen on any other F1. Even the glass lens that covers the headlights on this car appears smaller in relation to the all the other F1s I have seen. It's almost like this car is squinting. Stewart's F1 was lacking the GTR 5-spoke wheels on the Supercar DVD, but I suspect he may have both with a set of race tires fitted to the other wheels.

The interiors of these two cars are almost the same as well, both having a GT-style seat treatment finished black leather and what appears to be a red suede on all three seating positions. They each have a different steering wheel - Paul Stewart's is the standard Nardi wheel with a red suede section at the bottom between the 4 o'clock and 8 o'clock positions, and his wheel also has a unique center emblem with a silver outline. This 'R66 MCL' car has a different style of wheel - the same one as in #038, #011 & #073 - it is a little more sculpted and race-oriented than the standard wheel. In this car its finished in all black. Another difference is that Paul Stewarts F1 has a NAV-unit screen on the right side that this car doesn't seem to have when you look at TVRFreak's photos.

I think I'm on the record stating this once before, but it wouldn't surprise me if this 'R66 MCL' car was the other F1 road car that has an LM-spec engine like #073. It's purely speculation on my part though. We'll find out if I'm right or wrong someday I'm sure.

>8^)
ER

[cabrio92]

Hello,

just to remember you "the same one as in #038, #011 & #073" that #073 has not these rims.
And Erik, what do you think about a close relation with McLaren ? why not another car owned by Mansour Ojjeh or by Mika Hakkinen or Ron Dennis ?

Ciao
Phil

[Peloton25]

I was talking about the steering wheel, not the "rims" Phil.

I agree there must be some close relationship with this car to the company somehow. I don't really have a guess as to whom though.

>8^)
ER

[McLaren F1 Guy]

Every time I see a picture of this vehicle it seems to me as if the glass covers over the headlights are shaped differently than those on all the other F1s, but perhaps this is just an illusion created by the actual square bulbs.

[mini magic]

They are.

Also, am i missing something here? Didn't we already know that this was the square headlight car since the plates matched the other pics we have of it?