Ls Turbo questions

[one_lost_punk]

Alright i have a few questions that i just cant seem to find, though ive read a good chunk of the threads on this forum. I plan on buying an 96 integra se very soon and i have a number of questions about f/i and the internals of the ls.
I dont have a lot of money, so everyone says "Go ls, turbo; or ls vtec" i dont want the frankenstein setup because or realiablity issues, so dont respond with that. Since F/I is the only logical alternative i want to know where i can find a list of parts ill need to build a turbo kit... i dont want to spend a grand more on a pre-fab one, so what do i need for it... 2nd question, what are the components of the turbo that make the most difference in getting quatity... or basically whats the difference between the 800 dollar ebay kits and the pre-fab ones from rev hard?... the compressor? exhaust manifold? i mean what am i looking for?

3rd... in basically every thread with ls turbo it goes like this... ive got an ls, i want it fast and i dont have money...

responder: go f/i

then in the same or another thread

hey i want to go f/i

responder: get some new rods and pistons... etc.
so should i just get a turbo and run it at 4psi then crank it up to like 7-8 when i want too... will let lower my realiability a ton... and what does "lower realiability mean" is that its gonna go in 10k miles? or in 40k?
SO should i get some rods and pistons, and if i do can i swap them from another b series? or get some eagle rods and other pistons... keeping in mind that i dont want to spend over 1k on internals. preferably 600-700...
sorry this is long but in short i want a about 200hp and decent realiability between in a turbo and internals for about 2500 on parts.

[whtteg]

Ok 1st bit of advice I can give you is that if you don't know enough about what you need then you will be better off buying a kit form Revhard or any other turbo company. But I know that you most likely want to build it yourself so here is a small list of parts you need to start gathering:
Exhaust manifold
Turbo
Wastegate
BOV
Charge pipes
Down pipe
Braided hose and fittings for the oil supply and oil return
Fuel Management (this is probably the most important aspect of the kit) I would get a Hondata and some larger injectors along with a larger fuel pump. This is one of the best methods of FM that I know of for the cost. The cheap FMU that are boost controlled to increase the fuel pressure are crapy IMHO.

An aftermarket exhaust is going to be needed to give optimum performance.
For 200bhp you can probably run around 6-8 psi and easily see that. But as far as 200whp you might need more boost. The LS bottom end has been known to hold upwards of 14psi safely, but I would stick to the 8psi daily and maybe 12psi track.

I am kinda in a little hurry here so I might have left some things out. There are more members here that can fill in anything that i am missing, and if not I will fill it in later when I get back home.

[x~Underoath~x]

Intercooler...dont leave that one out.

[one_lost_punk]

alright i had all those parts down... i just wanted to make sure there isnt little things that i missed. mainly i just want like someone to answer questions about the quality issues or turbo parts.. in some depth.. and the reliability, and the rods and the pistons or just internals in general... like suggested ones that i can do for cheaper. I do know about the exhaust and intercooler.... dont worry...

[forcefanad]

Originally Posted by one_lost_punk

alright i had all those parts down... i just wanted to make sure there isnt little things that i missed. mainly i just want like someone to answer questions about the quality issues or turbo parts.. in some depth.. and the reliability, and the rods and the pistons or just internals in general... like suggested ones that i can do for cheaper. I do know about the exhaust and intercooler.... dont worry...

missing link...

boost gauge...A GOOD a/f gauge (try www.dawesdevices.com)...oil pressure woulndt hurt either.

[one_lost_punk]

thanx for the info ive gotten so far, but still where does everyone get their stuff, like ebay, junk yard shopping... some website? and also what turbo (t25, t3/t4 idk....) should i get that would be good for the ls.. anyone have a setup out their like i want to do?

[tran_nsx]

t3/t4 turbonetics ball bearing turbo if u can afford it. check out ebay, they might have some on sale. good luck.

[mazdaspeed_MX6]

Dude I Would Go With A Rev Hard Kit Man They May Be More $ But Its Not A Complete Pain To Install

[one_lost_punk]

hmmm.... 3g's for the Rev Hard... or about 1.5k-2k for the one i put together... idk... is my pain worth 1500 bux? still can anybody answer my question about like the quality of turbos? What do i want my exhaust manifold made out of.... cast iron? is there a difference (again) between the 1k ebay kits and 3k rev hard kits? other than a lot of pain....

[mazdaspeed_MX6]

if its the old money prob then go ahead and build ure own but im sure u will run into some major pains durin the process ive know guys who thought they knew what needed 2 happen and there project is still sittin there

[forcefanad]

Originally Posted by one_lost_punk

hmmm.... 3g's for the Rev Hard... or about 1.5k-2k for the one i put together... idk... is my pain worth 1500 bux? still can anybody answer my question about like the quality of turbos? What do i want my exhaust manifold made out of.... cast iron? is there a difference (again) between the 1k ebay kits and 3k rev hard kits? other than a lot of pain....

alright ive helped 2 people build turbo kits for their cars and helped put both of em on and both are running still....takes a day to put the kit on. u need a turbo wether its a junk yard turbo or if u have enough money to buy a new turbo...TD04 turbos are very nice. u need a turbo manifold of course dont skimp out on this...cheap ones crack. charge pipes (we used pvc pipe till we could get it in the shop to have custom pipes bent up) an intercooler, BOV if u want one, missing link, boost gauge, a good a/f gauge like i said before from www.dawesdevices.com, you also have to either put a small filter on you PCV system or re route it so it goes in before the turbo (you dont want to pressurize ur crank case) you also need oil line for your turbo, 4AN "t" and extension to put the oil line in from where the oil pressure sending unit is and you need to figure out a oil return. YOU DO NOT NEED WATER LINES IF THE TURBO HAS WATER FITTINGS...the only thing water does by going through the turbo is cools it off after you shut the car off....so if you let the car idle a good 2 minutes before you shut it off youll be fine (just be sure to do it everytime as the oil will Coke if u dont) if youve never done something like this i suggest u find someone you know to help you out as you can f*$k your car up real quick if u dont know what your doing.

[one_lost_punk]

one more question... where can i get a good exhaust manifold?

[mazdaspeed_MX6]

from ure mom

[kornflakes28546]

^what was the point of that?^ common...

try ebay or a local performance shop

[mazdaspeed_MX6]

i know the guy who wants to know about the turbo
im just givin him crap