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h22 tranny
Im looking to swap a jdm h22 into my 92 accord. One problem i have is i dont have an h22 tranny and i dont want to use the old accord tranny for a few reasons (one of them being that I drove it). Anyway, im looking into possibly a usdm transmission because ive heard that they are geared better for an all motor application. does anyone know if this is true or where i could find this out? Im also wondering if the usdm models had any kind of speed governors on them? any info would be great. thanks.
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Re: h22 tranny
true the h22 is geared better but i dont think it will make a big diff using it with an accord. and there is no govenors on trannys it would be in your ecu
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Re: h22 tranny
a guy on HT sells adapter plates to use B-series transmission with h22. ive heard with that combination(h22/b-series tranny) it weighs the same as a complete b18c swap.
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thanks h22meangreen for that info. I didnt know it was in the ecu, so shouldnt have a problem since im using jdm.
In response to that b-series tranny comment, i dont understand....first i dont think my axles will work with a b tranny and second i cant imagine why id want that anyway? but if you know something i dont let me know!
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Re: h22 tranny
well if you could figure out how to get a B series to the H22 one upside would be the wide selection of transmissions available.
but it would make sense to me that a tranny that was factory mated to a 200HP 2.2 would be stronger than that which was mated to a no-torque1.6 or 1.8
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current -84 datsun 720 4x4(2nd time)-93 accord-90 camry V6-90 warrior-94 300ex history: -01 R1-04 daytona 600-94 teg RS-95 teg LS -91 teg RS-92 teg GSR-94 civic CX hatch (3 times) -94 civic DX-96 civic HX-97 Accord LX-72 superbeetle -74 beetle-84 silverado-66 c10-74 maverick-78 280z -84 200sx-86 tercel wagon-95 mustang V6 |
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Re: h22 tranny
the b-series transmission is lighter then the h22 and has better gearing. youre right, you would need new axles to fit the transmission.
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Re: h22 tranny
not to metion the B series tranny has the torque rod/shift rod combo to shift, and the accord/prelude use the cable method so you will have to rig a B series linkage under the accord as well.
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current -84 datsun 720 4x4(2nd time)-93 accord-90 camry V6-90 warrior-94 300ex history: -01 R1-04 daytona 600-94 teg RS-95 teg LS -91 teg RS-92 teg GSR-94 civic CX hatch (3 times) -94 civic DX-96 civic HX-97 Accord LX-72 superbeetle -74 beetle-84 silverado-66 c10-74 maverick-78 280z -84 200sx-86 tercel wagon-95 mustang V6 |
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okay what if i just stuck with my f22 tranny. it seems to be in alright shape, but i some people have told me that its a waste to use it because of the gearing. Anyone know if it will make a difference?
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ratios
okay i got the gear ratios for f22/h22 transmissions:
Originally Posted by sloaccord 1. these are as listed in service manuals 2. these are for us models...i don't have knowledge of different jdm ratios 1st gear 3.307----> all 90-97 accords and all 92-95 prelude 2nd gear 1.809----> all 90-97 accord and 92-95 prelude s 1.857----> 92-95 prelude si 1.950----> 93-95 prelude vtec 3rd gear 1.185----> 90-97 accord LX 1.230----> 90-97 accord EX and 92-95 prelude s 1.320----> 92-95 prelude si 1.360----> 93-95 prelude vtec 4th gear .870----> 90-97 accord LX .903----> 90-93 accord EX and 92-95 prelude s .933----> 94-97 accord EX 1.034----> 92-95 prelude si 1.071----> 93-95 prelude vtec 5th gear .685----> 90-97 accord LX .705----> 90-97 accord EX and 92-95 prelude s .812----> 92-95 prelude si .870----> 93-95 prelude vtec final drive ratio 4.062 90-97 accord 2 dr and 4 dr 4.266 91-97 accord wagon 4.062 prelude s 4.266 prelude si and vtec I drive a 92 accord ex, but i dont know shit about ratios as far as how to compare them. Help is greatly appreciated.
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Re: h22 tranny
your gearbox is probally one of the slowest(but has high top speed). a shorter gear(numerically high) multiply more torque, thus giving you better acceleration but sacrificing top speed.
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Re: h22 tranny
yeah i understand that part, but i was wondering if anyone had experience in comparing the two? I really want this for a daily driver but not really sacrafice a lot of acceleration.
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Re: h22 tranny
if its just for daily driving stick with your tranny, will still be quick, and if you get disapointed with it down trhe road save up for the H tranny and swap it in later.
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current -84 datsun 720 4x4(2nd time)-93 accord-90 camry V6-90 warrior-94 300ex history: -01 R1-04 daytona 600-94 teg RS-95 teg LS -91 teg RS-92 teg GSR-94 civic CX hatch (3 times) -94 civic DX-96 civic HX-97 Accord LX-72 superbeetle -74 beetle-84 silverado-66 c10-74 maverick-78 280z -84 200sx-86 tercel wagon-95 mustang V6 |
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Re: h22 tranny
Good idea, im sticking with my transmission. i just hope i didnt beat it too much expecting to get another.....
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Re: h22 tranny
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Actually the jdm engine does have a speed limiter, at least mine does. It's at around 115, give or take. It does not, however, have a rev limiter. |
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Re: h22 tranny
that kinda sucks. i know my accord has a rev limiter but i never ran into a speed governor.
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