Lowering Question

[Gotti]

I found a '99 Civic Si in good condition but its lowered and i need to drive the car in the winter too... so i'm wondering what parts do i need to buy to bring it back to standard height??

Help me out my AF bredrin

i think the guy said struts, springs and shocks? right?

[Gotti]

oh ya and its a choice between the Civic Si and an Integra SE w/leather (which is a little cheaper) but i'm kinda leaning towards the Si cause of the better engine

what would you guys choose?

[eckoman_pdx]

All you'll need to raise the height is the springs. If you want OEM height you'll want OEM springs. You won't need new shocks unless the shocks are blown. If the shocks are blown replace the shocks while your at it. If the car was lowered on stock shocks then the shocks are likely going to be blown.

A second option is coilovers. You can raise the height up in the winter to the desired height and drop it for spring and summer weather. Just remember to get the car realgined after you change the ride ehight each time. If you go this route, again, if you wnat stock shocks onit now, they'll need to be replaced with qauilty aftermarket shocks like Koni. You can choose non-adjustable or adjustable shocks. Skunk2 and Ground Control are good, they only 2 sleeve type-coilovers I'd recommend. The other coilover option is threaded body coilovers like Tein, H & R's coilovers, Tanabe Sustec-pro, etc. These of course, being a true threaded body coilover, come with new shocks and springs. The most basic will have non-adjustable damping shocks, the most expensive ones will feature adjustable damping shocks.

As for the car/engine, better engine is all in the eye of the beholder. The teg comes with a B18B1. The Si a B16A. The B16A has, vtec, more peak hp and has a higher redline. The B18B1 is non-vtec with a lower redline but has more low-end torque. It also has a lower compression ratio and is considered a better engine to boost if you are going to go the forced induction route. If you can planning on going the n/a route, then you can always do an LS/Vtec. Which motor is better really is a matter of opinion. What are your goals. If you want vtec, don't want to mess around with head swaps and plan to say n/a, the B16A is a better choice. If you want more lowe end torque, or want to turbo themotor, or want a higher overall hp from an n/a motor and fine going the ls/vtec route, then the B18B1 Teg is a better choice. Also, other factors have to be considered. Which engine is in better condition, which car has lower miles on it, etc.

[superbluecivicsi]

just the stock springs.

[Gotti]

thanks for the excellent reply eckoman... i think the guy said he had coilovers on the back wheels and just lowering springs on the front...

I know he said he just had lowering springs on the front and something else on the back wheels i'm pretty sure he said coilovers

The teg has about 19,000 miles more but thats not a big deal cause its $1500 cheaper... which one would you choose? I was just thinking Si cause it comes with 20 extra hp from the get go. I dont plan on turboing it... but that could be a possibility in the future (couple years from now)

The civic only has 38,000 miles and the teg has 57,000

[kornflakes28546]

i say the teg (but im biast). if your thinking of turboing... the INTEGRA is your best bet... all motor... SI. is the teg standard?

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by kornflakes28546

i say the teg (but im biast). if your thinking of turboing... the INTEGRA is your best bet... all motor... SI. is the teg standard?

every car i look at is standard.... i have never and will never buy an auto. I'm european so we dont fuk with autos... thats for girls and lazy americans lol

fuk this is a hard choice... i dunno what i'm gunna do, cause the tegs cheaper

[mattyoung33]

id go with the Si....but why do you need to raise it to stock height for the winter? my car is dropped 2 inches and i have a lip kit and i live in new hampshire....lots of snow in the winter time and had no problems ever with my car.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by mattyoung33

id go with the Si....but why do you need to raise it to stock height for the winter? my car is dropped 2 inches and i have a lip kit and i live in new hampshire....lots of snow in the winter time and had no problems ever with my car.

the cars pretty much slammed.... i dont want to fuk up the bottem, and i'd never be able to get through bad snow like 6-10 inches deep

[Gotti]

does the integra really have that much of an advantage for turboing?? Cause i'm 75/25 for the Si now... I think its a better choice cause its newer, lower mileage, and 20 extra hp from the start.

[ridestreet84]

but if you bought the teg and spent 1500 that you save and an another 1500 the teg would be faster than the civic by far just by taking the money you saved and a little more and turbo the hell out of it just what i would do

[superbluecivicsi]

Originally Posted by Gotti

does the integra really have that much of an advantage for turboing?? Cause i'm 75/25 for the Si now... I think its a better choice cause its newer, lower mileage, and 20 extra hp from the start.

any B series motor boost just as well as any other considering you boost it right. anyone else saying other wise should start boosting different setups first.

with the proper turbo setup, engine management, buildup, and misc hardware, you will be set.

PS: the same can be said with an SOHC.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by superbluecivicsi

any B series motor boost just as well as any other considering you boost it right. anyone else saying other wise should start boosting different setups first.

with the proper turbo setup, engine management, buildup, and misc hardware, you will be set.

PS: the same can be said with an SOHC.

so basically people hype up the advantage the B18 has over the B16 to turbo?
And there really isnt that much difference?

[GScivic7]

Try boosting 12 psi on a T3/T4 on a B16 and on a B18B and see which one blows up first.

[Gotti]

Originally Posted by GScivic7

Try boosting 12 psi on a T3/T4 on a B16 and on a B18B and see which one blows up first.

which one? The B16?

Cause i heard that you get better gains turboing the B16... but if you want to go for ALOT of HP than its better going with the B18