Race Gas / NOS

[civicfreak1]

Hi ppl .... i got 2 questions here ....

#1= Can there be a substitute of Race Gas ????
i can't really find race gas around here.... the best i can get is a 91 octance gas.....

#2= I have heard ppl use nos in the intercooler to cool the compressed air flowing thru it....
my question here is .. how much nos can be safely use without blowing/breaking anything....

i have a built motor (head work done, and built block) but last time the plugs melted on me when i used too much nos....

[crxlvr]

1: use an octane booster, however this can become costly as everytime you fill the car with gas you need to add this into the tank also.

2: you need to know how much nos can you spray at an intercooler before something breaks, or into your car?

[CivicSpoon]

Oh man. You've misunderstood the information you read. They don't put NOS (nitrous) in the intercooler, there is a kit that sprays nitrous onto the outside of the intercooler. You hit the button and it sprays it on the intercooler so it cools it down a lot more. Check this out (it's a .pdf file) http://www.nitrousexpress.com/Catalo...ntercooler.pdf

[integrawhat]

you need colder plugs and adjust your timing better. and ive heard moth balls raise your octain rating but thats kinda scary and have no clue what kinda things could go wrong but if your up for a good test and tune let us know. lol

[civickiller]

is there an airport around where you live ? you can buy race gas over the internet

[civicfreak1]

Originally Posted by integrawhat

you need colder plugs and adjust your timing better. and ive heard moth balls raise your octain rating but thats kinda scary and have no clue what kinda things could go wrong but if your up for a good test and tune let us know. lol

Colder Plugs.....

i was using zex three tip something like that plugs the last time when i melt one of them ... i was told they were made to use with nos.....
could u please tell me ... which ones should i buy .....

and i have another question now....
wouldn't using the nos in my intercooler would cool the compressed air down as well ... ????

and yes there is an airport near my house...

And about the octance boosters..... they are avaliable here ...
They r like nos octance booster ,,, i think thats wht it said on the box...
so u are saying that i can use them with my full tanks...
but how man of those will i have to pour into a full tank..

[civicfreak1]

also...
brother how will i know "how much nos to spray that will not break anything in my car" ?

[civickiller]

ok you cant use too much nos, if your plugs melted that has to do with your plugs and tuning.

if there is an airport where you live, they more then likely sell high octane gas there, that you can buy from them and fill your car up.

and yes spraying your intercooler will lower intake temps. how much are you boosting ? how much nos you shooting ?

[civicHBsi91]

zex plugs suck, go with champions or ngk's...

[civicfreak1]

okay i'll check out with the airport ppl, and where they buy their fuel from....i am running 25 pounds of boost and 100 shot nos...
but i like the idea of using octance boosters...
do u know how much octance they increase.. if one bottle is mixed with one full tank...

[civickiller]

ok 25psi and 100shot of nos, dont expect that motor to last too long. how much hp are you running ? have you had to tuend yet ?

as for octane booster, say you have 91 pump gas, you add octane boost, on the back it says 5 to 7, so now you have 91.5 or 91.7.

[civicfreak1]

Originally Posted by civickiller

ok 25psi and 100shot of nos, dont expect that motor to last too long. how much hp are you running ? have you had to tuend yet ?

as for octane booster, say you have 91 pump gas, you add octane boost, on the back it says 5 to 7, so now you have 91.5 or 91.7.

Sir i got darton sleeves, cp pistons, 4340 aircraft quality eagle rods..
thats it for the block
in the head i got
skunk 2 titanium retainers
skunk 2 turbo cams
skunk 2 dual vavle springs
skunk 2 valves
arp head studs....
quief lsd ...

i thought these were enough saftey precautions ...

please correct me if i am wrong ...
i think we'll be pushing around 500+ hp ////

[civickiller]

is this a full race car or street car ? and when you say you think we'll be pushing that much power then you havent made that much power yet

what motor? what bore ? what stroke ? who ported the head ? what kind intake mani ? what kind of engine management ? what size turbo ?

[civicfreak1]

Originally Posted by civickiller

is this a full race car or street car ? and when you say you think we'll be pushing that much power then you havent made that much power yet

what motor? what bore ? what stroke ? who ported the head ? what kind intake mani ? what kind of engine management ? what size turbo ?

B16A - Generation1
standard darton sleeves - standard bore 9 compression pistons
head has not been ported or polished... since no one knows how to do it around here.... (i wish i could do it myself but i ain't that smart)
stock intake manifold
uberdata rngine management
Full-race stage 3 gt35r

talk about proting the head....

do u guys know ??? how to port my head ???
or only if someone of u could provide me with pictures???

and do u ppl think i should buy some kind of oil cooling kit ???
i ppl say b16a has the best oil cooling system and i don't need to mess with that ... is that true ??

sorry if i ask to many questions .... its only cuz there is no other way to learn

[civicfreak1]

by the way its not a street car....
its fully dedicated to racing

and also i read somewhere that b16a heads flow even better than the type R ones... thats why i haven't paid much attention to porting...

and there r no dynos here ... so i will never be able to find out wht is the actual hp i'll be making////

we are tunning off of wideband o2 and EGT guages...

boost controller is apexi AVCR by the way