GSR slower than 00' mustang v6

[pepsihatman]

Hi guys, I have a friend of mine that has a 2000 Mustang v6 coupe. He has a K&N air filter, modified throttle body (so that when he floors it it open all the way), and the cobra 17'' wheels and Z rated tires. I have a 1998 Integra GSR with an AEM CAI, and the rest stock with 195/55 micheline v rated tires. I was racing him earlier this week, and I was almost loosing. Does the K&N filter and such help his car that much? or should my car be faster? We are both good drivers, I get to 60 at 7 seconds exactly (timed it). Should my car be faster than that? I really expected to beat him a bit easier, but I have to beat the crap outta my car red-lining it and such to beat him. And I have raced him on the highway, and at a 70 drop, steadily pulled away from him, but much slower than I expected..... Do you guys think that there may be something wrong with my car? Thanks for the info.

[SBallerk2]

No, I think ur car is FINE...but ur not going to blow him over either...u should win by a good 2-3 car's if u do then ur FINE...if not...then maybe his just a lil better shifter...

[integralover]

actually the bigger the rim size will slow your car down. i raced my friend is his v6 eclipse w/stock tires and could not beat him. pretty much beat me by one tire length. then he got 17's and he could not beat me. but, i do agree with SBallerk2 that you should beat him. i beat them all the time. its the newer v8's that give me a run for my money. and i don't have vtec. but we both are putting out about the same hp and torque.

[p0wered_by_acura]

how much hp does the v6 mustang have?

[pepsihatman]

190hp.

[integralover]

2000 mustang 3.8L 190 hp V6 has 190 @ 5250 RPM and 220 @ 2750 RPM and runs a 16.5 1/4.

[integrawhat]

Originally Posted by integralover

its the newer v8's that give me a run for my money. and i don't have vtec. but we both are putting out about the same hp and torque.

are you saying you have the same hp without vtec as the v8's or am i reading this wrong (or are you boosted)?

[integralover]

hahaha, no. sorry for the confusion. i meant the gsr. i have about the same hp but, i have alittle more torque. so me and a gsr are about the same. but i just don't have the vtec.

[94tegRS]

no way you got 170HP out of a B20B with bolt-ons, its only 126 HP stock even the B20Z at 146 stock would be lucky to see 170 with boltons.



and how did you time it?

my friend tested his car with a stop watch, funniest damn thing I ever heard, should have heard the cars he could have beat with his civic because of how inaccurate that test is.

[pepsihatman]

if the Mustang runs a 16.5 quarter mile, then I should definatly beat the shit out of it to 100 or so, seeing as I run a 15.2 stock (have CAI). We raced to that high and he still was not falling back as much as I thought. What I am saying is that are his mods really helping much, or am I driving wrong perhaps?

[integralover]

Originally Posted by 94tegRS

no way you got 170HP out of a B20B with bolt-ons, its only 126 HP stock even the B20Z at 146 stock would be lucky to see 170 with boltons.
and how did you time it?

everyone seems to think that b/c the b20b/z has 126/146hp stock ON THE CRV, that it will post the same hp in the teg. NOPE. totally different fuel map. totally different cams. different weight.
i have the ecu for my teg, not for the crv. that ecu is designed for an suv, not a sporty car. that goes the same for the cams. i had it dyno'd at 166hp at the crank and that is when i accidentally left the crv cams on. i changed the cams to the ls cams and that made a HUGE difference. so i know it is about 10hp better. so iam actually posting around 176hp. i have the slip for verification.

Originally Posted by pepsihatman

if the Mustang runs a 16.5 quarter mile, then I should definatly beat the shit out of it to 100 or so, seeing as I run a 15.2 stock (have CAI). We raced to that high and he still was not falling back as much as I thought. What I am saying is that are his mods really helping much, or am I driving wrong perhaps?

and pepsi, remember that is the v6 stang. not the gt. the 2000 gt i think is 14.1?

[94tegRS]

you had the engine on an engine dyno? or did you just take what you got at the wheels and estimate drivetrain loss.

[kornflakes28546]

Originally Posted by integralover

everyone seems to think that b/c the b20b/z has 126/146hp stock ON THE CRV, that it will post the same hp in the teg. NOPE. totally different fuel map. totally different cams. different weight.
i have the ecu for my teg, not for the crv. that ecu is designed for an suv, not a sporty car. that goes the same for the cams. i had it dyno'd at 166hp at the crank and that is when i accidentally left the crv cams on. i changed the cams to the ls cams and that made a HUGE difference. so i know it is about 10hp better. so iam actually posting around 176hp. i have the slip for verification.



and pepsi, remember that is the v6 stang. not the gt. the 2000 gt i think is 14.1?

The 176hp is impressive! do you have a quarter mile time? id be interested to see what you run. what is the weight difference between 2nd gen tegs and 3rd gen?

v6 stangs are f*ckin garbage!

[pepsihatman]

Integralover, I am well aware it's the v6 model. GT's are faster, but still poorly built, inefficient cars.

[94tegRS]

Ill agree with you they are poorly built, but those new GT's, sure if they wanted to they could have gotten more out of the engine, but so could just about every manufacturer out of every car. older GT's might not be all that fast so maybe you are talking about those.

and the V6's suck for sure, not sure about newer ones but the one I had was slow as any car, I got pulled on by a full isuzu imark, mine was auto though and the year before they got the huge jump in power so the 96 i think + might not have been as huge a disapointment