??? on 95 Rail Recall vs. 96/97 Rail Recall

[thumpin455]

OK I shouldn't be complaining since my car still runs great, but, I had the fuel rail recall done today and have a few questions. I know that the rail kit is supposed to be different on the 95 because a "unique underhood fuel return line" according to the recall. As soon as I got home I inspected their work. I had to get a chevy dealer to do it because our Olds dealer sold out to Mitsubishi. Anyway, could some of the 95 owners that have had the recall done please describe what portion of the return line got replaced. My return line had been replaced with rubber hose by a previous owner and I was suprised to see this same rubber hose connected to the new stainless rail. I noticed about 12" of the old nylon return line that used to run under the throttle body was eliminated but that was due to the fact that the 95 FPR used to be located on the driver side rear of the old nylon rail but now is located on the driver side front of the new stainless rail. With the exception of the 12" piece of plastic return line that got eliminated should'nt I see a new fuel return line somewhere? like maybe between the new fuel rail assembly and where the lines turn back to the original metal lines bundled over the brake booster? I would like to know for certain if my rubber hose should have been replaced. I'm assuming the largest line is the fuel supply line which by the way is still plastic from the new rail to the booster area. The rail kit listed on their invoice is P/N 12583146. They also replaced the FPR under warranty with P/N 89017530. Were these the correct part numbers to do a 95??

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving

[Bill V]

Originally Posted by thumpin455

With the exception of the 12" piece of plastic return line that got eliminated should'nt I see a new fuel return line somewhere? like maybe between the new fuel rail assembly and where the lines turn back to the original metal lines bundled over the brake booster? I would like to know for certain if my rubber hose should have been replaced. I'm assuming the largest line is the fuel supply line which by the way is still plastic from the new rail to the booster area. The rail kit listed on their invoice is P/N 12583146. They also replaced the FPR under warranty with P/N 89017530. Were these the correct part numbers to do a 95??

Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving

On a '95, you should have a new steel rail and a replacement line assembly that includes the return and feed lines from the rail all the way back to the fuel tank (including a new fuel filter). You should also see plastic conduit on your plug wires...

[thumpin455]

Thanks Bill, It will be late this weekend before I can crawl under to confirm but so far it looks like I got shortchanged on the 95 only unique fuel return line. Also no plastic conduit on the plug wires. Was the conduit included in the rail kit. You are an Olds tech right? I saw on one of your old posts that you did your first 95 in early September. So you are saying that the whole fuel line bundle (supply, return, and vapor) gets replaced from the new rail all the way back to the tank? Anybody know a link to where GM instructions specific to perform the 1995 fuel rail recall may be posted. I found a link to a PDF file with step-by-step instructions for the 96/97 models but that was early summer prior to the 95 recall being announced. I would like to present some official proof to the dealer on what they should have done. Also if anyone that can confirm 12583146 as being the correct stainless fuel rail kit for a 1995 and does that single part number include the replacement fuel lines in question.

Thanks again

[Bill V]

All years ('95 - '97) get the conduit with the rail replacement.
The line kit ('95) runs from the rail to the tank junction (at the filter).
The rail part number is correct, as I recall. (Baaaad pun!)
The line kit has its own part number.
I don't know of an on-line source for the instructions...

[Indy8]

I got nothing replaced under the car with my recall job. Each stealer is going to do whatever they feel like doing, regardless of what the order calls for, as long as the rail is on and does not leak.

[thumpin455]

Indy you have a 97 so the chassis fuel lines wouldn't apply right? I totally agree that the dealers are going to do whatever they feel like doing. But when the dealer submits their paperwork for reimbursement I wonder if GM will catch the error or even care that I didn't get a new return line for my 10 year old car. Before I ever scheduled the work with their service writer, I reminded him that the 1995 took different parts than the 96/97 and to double check and make sure they had all the parts in stock. He called back and said they did. I never mentioned the chassis fuel lines in particular since that's their job to know what parts are affected. He said they had one service tech that did all of their Aurora recalls. I figured since I had been sitting on this recall letter for 2 months that they would have gotten some practice with a 95 or two before mine. Well I guess not.

Btw, welcome back Indy8. I noticed you've been away for a while.

[Indy8]

Thanks! It's been a busy summer. The condition of my car is unchanged as far as the coolant pressure is concerned. The problem is no better and no worse than a year ago, so I ignore it. I'm pretty sure exhaust gas is getting into the system but never confirmed it with a smog probe and around 140 pounds in all 8 holes. No water/coolant in the oil either....ever. Fuel economy is also unchanged and it's making full power. I guess the truth is that I don't want to know as long as she holds together. I just tuck thin pieces of rags around and under the rad cap so when it pukes the mess is mostly contained.

[KillerKeller_jr]

Hey Indy, I just demanded that everything get replaced otherwise I would come back on them when the car burns up because they thought the parts weren't going to leak. Andy the service man just looked at me and said good point, good thing I ordered the parts for you car just in case. I laughed at him and said ya good thing. Andy then said they always replace parts in a recall when it is an option and it involves anything stating potential fire hazard. So ya your stealer, I mean dealer is definately not interested in keeping you around the way it sounds.