Suspension combo

[96GSR-N]

I'm thinking about getting some Neuspeed Race springs with Koni shocks and a camber kit. The springs advertise a 2"-2.5" drop. I have GSR Fat Five wheels. The wheels won't rub againts the fender right? Whats a good camber kit? Also wheres a good place to get this stuff installed since I'm getting most of it online?

[Beastiek2]

Skunk2 good camber kit.
SPC good camber kit
Those are 2 I have experience with. As for getting it installed Skunk2 was an easy installation for me and a friend. The SPC kit I had installed. Any car place that does installs and performance mods can install it for you. I paid $150 for all 4 wheels. I had also heard Mavis and other tire places could do it, but I have yet to ask them. As for rubbing What size tire and rim do you have?

[GScivic7]

GSR Fat Fives, I'm guessing he's running 195/50 tires. I don't think you'll have to worry about rubbing with that drop.

[eckoman_pdx]

Ingalls camber kits are good cmaber kits also. As for install, yes, any place that sells/installs can do it for you. However, prices and qaulity of work throughness CAN vary greatly. I HAVE seen places mess up suspension install before, though not really sure how that is possible seeing it's pretty straightforward. I've seen "performance places try and charge $300 (what a rip-off) down to around $100. Look around and know the qaulty of work the place you go does, but don't overpay for an install. Springs and shocks are fairly straightforward.

If you get the Nuespeed Koni Yellow sports, they have, among other things, a 20mm shorter shaft and have a 5 way adjustable perch versus the standard 3 way perch on regular koni yellows. They are designated by "SP3" at the end of the part number.

[96GSR-N]

So if I get the Neuspeed Race Springs ( instead of Neuspeed Sport Springs ) which shocks go with it? and yea the main thing I'm really concerned with concerning the install is having it DONE RIGHT. I'm worried about the install done inccorrectly or sloppily and having problems later on. I had some Tokico Shocks installed on my first gen integra about 8 years ago by a so-called "performance shop" where the shop owner had these two boys install my shocks on the street next to the parking meter where i was parked on an uneven surface. And they were racing to see who could install their side fastest!! At the time I didnt really know shit about proprer installs but I realized later after having a lot of sounds and noises coming from my suspension and eventually having one of my brake lines punctured because of teh shitty install that these guys/the shop were MORONS and didnt give a fuck. So I'm leaning more towards more like a Midas type place that actually hires certified mechanics to install my parts. For peace of mind I might even go have it done at the Acura Dealership ... but that would cost me an arm and 2 legs.

[eckoman_pdx]

Koni yellows would make a good combo. If you demand double adjustable shocks (compression and rebound) you'll want to look elsewhere or have them re-valved as such (which koni can do for a fee). They ARE adjustable, but only the rebound is adjustable. Konis have a lifetime warrenty to the original purchuser.

As for install, no need to go to a place like midas or get raped by the dealer. Just make sure the place you go knows what they are doing. One thing, with Koni yellows you WILL need the brake hose bracket off of the old shock, stock or otherwise. On stock shocks the bracket can be pounded off, on shocks like Tokico it is welded on. If you have your sotck ones on the car or laying around, have them handy. When you lower a car you'll want to cut the bumpstop in half. Once it's cut in half, use the TOP part and not the bottom half. I have seen some WEIRD stuff go on here. If your bumpstops are worn or cracked, etc...I;d just spet the $$ and get new ones, they don't cost ton. If you have done any sort of car work youself and don't mind trying it yourself and learning; and have some tools handy or don't mind buying some, go get a Helms (even a Haynes should work for this) manual and read up on the install. Get a torque wrench, some sockets an a clamp style spring compressor. Just make sure to get everything torqued down right.

[lotusvale]

hi,
i'm also getting neuspeed racing for 00 civic sir. with a set of kyb agx. would this be good combination?
i'll probably get the camber kit as well, but any opinions on the ride/performance, whether my shocks will not last long?

thanks

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by lotusvale

hi,
i'm also getting neuspeed racing for 00 civic sir. with a set of kyb agx. would this be good combination?
i'll probably get the camber kit as well, but any opinions on the ride/performance, whether my shocks will not last long?

thanks

2-2.25" is the drop you can expect with the nuespeed racing springs. That is a pretty extreme drop for the KYB AGX's. You'd be better off going with Koni yellows (sports) with that type of drop.

[BullShifter]

Originally Posted by eckoman_pdx

2-2.25" is the drop you can expect with the nuespeed racing springs. That is a pretty extreme drop for the KYB AGX's. You'd be better off going with Koni yellows (sports) with that type of drop.

KYB doen not suggest more than 1.5" drop because they are a stock length strut. Koni yellow is the only strut I suggest for more than 1.75" of lowering and that's the same point where camber kits are absolutely needed.

As soon as we get the alignment rack ready to go I'm going to cut of the front upper strut mounts(on the car) and weld in some camber plates with the washer trick in the rear. I've even see people slot the upper holes for camber adjustment.

Race springs are exactly what they say, engineers put more effort into handling than ride quality so they will be very stiff.

Dealers will not install aftermarket parts, at least the ones I worked for didn't. I suggest looking for a performance shop that does the stuff every day rather than midas. Those guys are usually hacks.

[eckoman_pdx]

Originally Posted by jackasssi

KYB doen not suggest more than 1.5" drop because they are a stock length strut. Koni yellow is the only strut I suggest for more than 1.75" of lowering and that's the same point where camber kits are absolutely needed.

As soon as we get the alignment rack ready to go I'm going to cut of the front upper strut mounts(on the car) and weld in some camber plates with the washer trick in the rear. I've even see people slot the upper holes for camber adjustment.

Race springs are exactly what they say, engineers put more effort into handling than ride quality so they will be very stiff.

Dealers will not install aftermarket parts, at least the ones I worked for didn't. I suggest looking for a performance shop that does the stuff every day rather than midas. Those guys are usually hacks.

That's exactly why I said 2-2.5" is a pretty extreme drop for KYB AGX's, because they don't suggest any more than a 1.5" drop. Correct me if I'm wrong, but "Extreme Lowering" voids the warrenty on these, same as "Extreme Lowering" voids the warrenty on Tokico (in which for 92-95 civics tokico considers extreme lowering is considered anything more than 1.75") Nuespeed Racing springs are going to be conisdered "extreme lowering" on almost any shock other than Koni sports. As Jackassi said, you'll need a camber kit fornt and rear for sure with a 2-2.25" drop. When you get them installed, as we have both said above, no need to go to a placelike Midas or get raped by a place that charges tons like a dealer (most won't install it anyway, though I know of 1 Acura dealership in Seattle that will). Just look for a place that knows what they are doing. Look for a good performance shop like jackasssi suggested. Don't go to a cheap and cheezy place. I'd just install them myself, but I suppose that's not for everyone.

I agree, Koni sports are the only way to go if you are looking at anything more than 1.75." The vavling is pretty stiff too. When I called Koni tech deptartment they claimed the yellows can handle upwards of 800lbs/inch spring rates (more than we'll have, lol) before needing to be re-valved and made double adjustable. Also, the Nuespeed spec Koni sports (designated by SP3 after the paret # instead of "Sport") have a 20mm shorter shaft than the standard yellows and are 5-way adjustable with the perch versus 3-way.