16 second civic 94' hatchback

[blight]

What is going to be my cheapest route to get a 94 civic hatchback to run low 16s to high 15s? Swap? Base engine work? Exast? Ect?

Just comparing this to droping an sr20det into a 95' sentra se-r, for price and a winter car.

[Beastiek2]

So you want the car to run a stock 1/4 mile basically????? Basic work, bolt ons, throw a 50 shot and slicks on it and you'll be hitting high 14's.

[Ace$nyper]

Originally Posted by Beastiek2

So you want the car to run a stock 1/4 mile basically????? Basic work, bolt ons, throw a 50 shot and slicks on it and you'll be hitting high 14's.

pretty much mang.

heck i've seen 5th gen Sis with cam and i/h/e hit high 14s on street tires. So your goals are VERY fesiable even with a very low budget

[ridestreet84]

do a basic tune up and you might hit that magic number of 16 sec in the 1/4

[Miataracer]

are you sure you are thinking about the right numbers blight?

[CivicSpoon]

yeah isn't the sr20det motor like 200+hp? I mean I don't know nissan motors at all but the only sr20det's I've seen were like 205-240hp. But I very well could be incorrect.

[GScivic7]

yup they are about 200 hp and 200 ft/lb torque too. I've never been able to find solid figures, but that seems to be the consensus

[blight]

Yeah, well I don't realy need anything so fast with my 70' 240z setup i'm working on so...

(400whp -520rorque at 3000rpm, just dropping an olds 455 from 68 stock i should pull low 11s with 20MPG, and i have a stock 84' vette so...)

I just wanted a winter car quicker than my stock 89' Honda accord dx (this motor is the last carbed motor out of honda -damn thing only has 98hp the thing barely even moves. it takes 1.6 even flooring it - to get in the rpm range for it to go. Ug...

I just wanted a car with decent MPG for a winter car that is going to pull 16's at least. If I can hit 14's for 1g heck I'll do it but its not so needed. I don't want to gut it or run NOS just for future reference. Sorry i should have been a little more clear in my first post. Also which model of civic hatchback of that year range should I get, in your opinion? (I prefer that year range of hatch back myself) It would be nice to beat the hell of my buddies secretary car at least (girl car) he owns a 2003 cavilier bone stock. Also if I can avoid the winding exast sound that would be great, I know I SHOULD open up the exast its just that If I go to ANY of my friends houses with that civic making a a high reving sound they seriously WILL shoot me. We are all into for the most part muscle cars - I'm the only one not SO biased. Just as long as it its quick I say.
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And yes the sr20det has about 212Hp and 200torque it depends on what year of the motor or what doner car you are getting it from or if your turboing a stock de motor. the s15 stock in jp runs abot 250hp (thogh I'm not sure at rwh or at the crank).
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So to sum up
1.quicker than my buddies stock 03' cavy (possibly to pull 14s for under a g also)
2. What bolt on parts should I start on
3. Will I have to end up doing any swaps (could i just drop a gsr motor in it- I belive its was the b17a??? cost on this??? or is the rest just cheaper???)
4. WHAT EXACTLY SHOULD I DO, I don;t care just as long i can rape his cavy in the 0-60------------
Thanks for all your guys help and patience on this one - just because I own a honda doesn't mean I know anything about it.

[ridestreet84]

95 hatch should be able to find one between 3-5 g
b18c5 integra type r engine
this set up is about 10 g after all is said and done if you dont have anything like the car or what not but if i was going to put an engine in the old accord for cheap just do a b16a swap should be more than 2g and it should smoke the 03 cavi but the top mentioned idea would not only rape the cavi it would smack it in its face with its cock and call it a bitch 2

[CivicSpoon]

It really depends on how much exactly you're looking to spend. Like people said above, you could just use the Si/EX motor in the car with bolt-ons and get to 16's. If you want faster, then you would have to spend a minimum of 2G's for a B16a swap, that's 160hp (170hp if you get the japanese version of the motor). If you want to spend around $3500 (prob a little bit more) you could get the B18c1, the GS-R motor with 170hp (180hp Japanese version). The B17a1 is the '92-'93 GS-R motor; but I'm not sure if it's a hydralic or cable transmission (Can anyone confirm either???)

[GScivic7]

I believe they still used cable trannies with the B17s.

EDIT: I meant cable lol

[blight]

Well lets stay with the si/ex motor here. Is this stock in the 92-95 civic hatchback? Are they (si/ex) two different engines?

And what bolts on do you recomend then? Will it make that...sound ? Cost?

What venders do you all recomend? Web cites?

And I REALLY appreciate all your guys help.

[CivicSpoon]

The Si and EX have the same engine, the d16z6. The other hatchbacks have different engines; DX has the d15b7 (102hp), the VX has the d15z1 (92hp) and the CX has the d15b8 (70hp).
I'd say just get the regular bolt-ons: cold air intake, header, exhaust. I've heard that the Apexi World Sport and RS*R (can't remember the model right now) are pretty quiet cat-back exhausts. A lot of people go with the AEM CAI, just be careful of cheap (e-bay type) ones because they tend to be louder than a known brand. DC Sports seems to be one of the most, if not the, most popular brand for a header. I'm sure someone else could probably help you on some more ideas.

[blight]

Well how about the d16y8? Is it because the Rod to stroke ratio is bad? Can that not be fixed? if not I will go with the si motor d166

Ok I looked up on the apexi exhaust good.

Now what Header should I get?

Intake?

Cam? (also will it need to be dyno tooned after the cam?)

Pully kit?

And what is a VAFC? Will that count?

And what do you guys think the cost of this will all end up to be? Just for future reference that is.

[CivicSpoon]

The d16y8 is an OBD2 engine, so you'll have to do some wiring to get it to work in your car.
This the cheapest I've seen the World Sport exhaust: http://www.sportcarmotion.com/apexiexhaust.htm
Don't know which header or intake are best. For cams, you could go skunk2, crower, a few others out there. AEM makes a pulley kit, people see to like them. The VAFC is a vtec engagement and air/fuel computer, it's a basic tuning tool. It'd also be good if you don't want to get it dyno tuned, although dyno tuning will be the best idea. I really don't know how much it will end up costing, but if it get's to $1,000 or more, then just go with a turbo. You could piece together your own kit for $1,500 or less and have far more power than with just bolt-ons.