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Old 10-30-2004, 07:46 AM
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"Question about tunning up engine"

From what I've read so far, I guess if you were going to supe the engine to get the HP around 300+ on a 93 prelude si, it's just better to stay with the H23a.

But then to match the psi, (which I dun even know what psi stands for) so that the turbo can meet the required HP, you need to work on lot of other stuff in the car.

So my question is what are the things that I need to work on if I were to supe up the engine.

I don't just want to add a stupid giant-a** muffler and make the car sound like a damn fly.

I mean...besides working on the turbo, intercooler, muffler etc. what else do I need to work on?

Also, I want to change the trasmission and the clutch because the car came with an auto.

How would all this cost? Could anyone of you who are familiar with a 93 prelude si give some estimate?

"Question about the body work"

Another question I had was working on the body kit.

My friend has a 93 Toyota Supra twin turbo, and he worked on the body himself(except the paint-job) according to him.

He said that working on the body, just putting it together isn't much of a difficult task as long as you got some tools to work with...

If this is true, could anyone give me any guidelines as to how I can install a body-kit?

Something like...maybe a site where they offer a PDF file with instructions on how to install a body?

I don't really want to take eveything to a shop...since it will prolly cost a load of money to get the whole job done. I plan on working on the car with a friend and taking it into a shop for the paint-job.

Oh yea...uhm, anyone have a clue as to where I could order a H22A4 engine online? I mean, turbo-kits for the H23A seems to come at high prices as I've seen em ( somewhere around 3k-3.5k). If it's going to cost me more to supe up the whole darn H23a, then might as well get a H22A4 or even a H22A1.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:41 AM
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First off, when you find yourself asking questions like these, you shouldnt be messing around with FI yet. You need to do more research. FI isn't simply a "Bolt and Go," the prep work for higher boost than 8psi will run alot of money.

Reason is because you need to prep the motor. Examples, Sleeving the pistons, balancing the crankshaft block spacers, new pistons, prep the head, new internals...and so forth.

Not doing this and running more than 4-6psi can cause ALOT of problems. I just started my VTEC comversion and prep work for FI. You can keep track of that Here.

Another thing is that unless you've built TurboCharged cars before, I HIGHLY suggest you let a shop do it. Yes they cost money, but there's a reason for that.

The turbo kit costs 3-4K because it's a TURBO KIT. Look at what it does...

If you're not etirely sure how to work on the car, don't. Let someone else who knows.

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Old 10-30-2004, 10:52 PM
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Re: Need HELP...(I'm a N00b)

as for body work unless you know how to do "body work" i suggest still take it to a shop, ive herd so many Fitment horror stories, i mean if you want your car to look really ghetto by all means go ahead . Who knows you might actually get a kit thats fits perfectly but i think its a slim chance, i have an O.E.M Honda front lip and not even that was a perfect fit.
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Old 10-30-2004, 11:05 PM
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well imma add my heheh, PSI is pressure per square inch ...(its a unit for persure) in your case in the the pressure in the engine (now thats not too hard to remember is it

P.s. turbos of course cause more pressure, more pressure causes horse power but it also cause more stress on ur engine (thats why k_dog said "... Sleeving the pistons, balancing the crankshaft block spacers, new pistons, prep the head, new internals...and so forth."
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Old 10-31-2004, 02:54 AM
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Re: Need HELP...(I'm a N00b)

pressure per square inch? pounds per square inch. :-P
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Re: Need HELP...(I'm a N00b)

ooops dang mah bad (wrong word) thanks for the correction
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Re: Need HELP...(I'm a N00b)

A 6PSI daily driver on stock internals is not at all impossible, it's been done. People have reported 50k miles and going strong with a quality kit, and the only sacrifice seems to be decreased gas mileage (I predict these people just like to floor it all the time, anyways).

You do not need fancy reinforced pistons or rods for boost so miniscule. You just need knowledge on engines, safety, and have a bit of common sense.
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Old 11-01-2004, 03:41 PM
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Re: Need HELP...(I'm a N00b)

both of you are right...its pound per square inch (psi) but psi is a unit of pressure....so 8 psi is 8 pounds per square inch of pressure

the way body kits are made is by a plastic mold of a plastic mold of a plastic mold (you get the idea) of a plastic mold that has the same specs that fit whatever car the mold is for. there for there are hardly ever 2 body kits alike...same as there are no 2 cars exactly alike. i dont know much about engine work besides the basics and that is why i get on here to ask questions but i do know how to work on the body and if you want your kit done right to where it looks half descent then you need to take it to someone who knows how to work on the body
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Old 11-01-2004, 04:51 PM
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you gonna have 20k in it before you can turn your hat around. if you stay within the revs it'll last 6mo to a year. then you can do it all again.
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