is kerry serious?

[dbebesi]

i just saw a speach where kerry accused bush of not butting his faith in God into his work enough. kerry said this at a church, figures, say what people want to hear. what a hipocrite.

[2strokebloke]

butting his faith in God

Yeah, what the hell does that mean? Kerry must've taken speach lessons from Bush.

[YogsVR4]

Another example of Kerry just saying what he thinks people want to hear. Though I do give him credit for not putting everyone to sleep.

[aloharocky]

Kerry is just a Kennedy Wannabe. Something you don't hear about: During the Vietnam war, many soldiers turned down Purple Hearts just so they wouldn't have to leave their men. To hear Kerry's "Vote for me cause I'm a Hero" bit makes me sick. He wouldn't equal a pimple on a real soldier's ass.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by aloharocky

Something you don't hear about: During the Vietnam war, many soldiers turned down Purple Hearts just so they wouldn't have to leave their men.

Names?

Dates?

Have you seen it?

Were you there?

Or is it just some scrambled hypothesis?

Did Bush turn down a Purple heart? Nope,he turned down Vietnam. And then he turned down a pilot's medical.And then he turned his back on the balance of his national service.Couldn't even complete a cruisy job.

Don't vote for Bush if you think Kerry isn't much of a soldier,because compared to Kerry,Bush is a spoiled little momma's boy.

But this argument isn't about Vietnam, it's about which party has the better clothes horse.SOMEBODY START A THREAD WITH SOME POLICY ARGUMENTS, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

[indyram]

At least Bush know what way he is going, rather than Kerry who just goes with whatever way the wind is blowing.

[YogsVR4]

Nope,he turned down Vietnam.

When was an offer made? Or is this more babbling bullshit too.

Kerry is a liberal. Voted liberal his 20 years in the Senate. He's a self serving prima donna that will financially decimate the country.

[taranaki]

Originally Posted by YogsVR4

When was an offer made? Or is this more babbling bullshit too.
.

Much as you'd love it to be untrue,Bush specifically checked a box on his enlistment papers marked "I do not volunteer to serve overseas'.



Hardly surprising,since strings had already been pulled to get him into the Nation Guard Pilot training program ahead of hundreds of better-qualified applicants.

Bush bailed into a cushy job that he didn't earn rather than risk being drafted.When he got there[with a lot of help from daddy and Daddy's pals],he checked a box to make sure that he didn't end up in Vietnam.


http://www.hillnews.com/marshall/022604.aspx

As to your argument re Kerry's fiscal policy,Bush has financially decimated millions of American families.Unemployment is up ,manufacturing is down,imported manufactured goods are up,American corporates are scrambling to outsource as much labour to third-world countries as they can...

Bush has created a tax cut that mostly benefits the rich at the expense of the needy.He's cutting down apple trees and selling them for firewood.Sooner or later, he'll run out of apples.And firewood.

[YogsVR4]

Right. Thats the exact same check box that Kerry checked as he went after his three deferments. Big whoop-de-do. Both men went for deferments. Both men went to the reserves. Kerry's unit got called into action. Bush's didn't Neither volunteered to go to Vietnam.

Bush has not decimated millions of families. The economy was heading south before he came to office. He turned it around. The companies outsourcing are doing so to stay cost competative. If they don't, they'll shut there doors. Pretty simple economics. Outsourcing has as many as half a million jobs. Thats a whole hell of a lot less then the clothing manufacturers lost over the seventies and eighties (tens of millions of jobs) and people who had those jobs took others and the economy grew. This is no different, its just a new sector of the economy going through the same paces. The same doom and gloom predictions are being said now as they were then. It was wrong before - its wrong now.

The tax cuts were for the rich. Pathetic. The tax cuts were for income earners. The more you paid, the more you got back. In fact, people got tax credits that payed them for the children they have (if they paid no tax, they recieved the money they could have claimed as a tax credit). Married couples avoided the marriage penalty. Social spending went up 5% across the board or more (sometimes over 20%) and this decimated the poor? How exactly is giving people back there own money and increasing spending on social programs hurting the poor?

I've explained many times how being rich has nothing to do with a tax cut. Kerry's wife has a billion dollar fortune that she pays ZERO tax on. Why? Its not income. Not a dime of it. Typical leftward thinking. Tax the people working and the harder they work, the more you tax them. Unless there is a wealth tax, its political dishonesty to claim its tax cuts 'for the rich'.

We can argue over the spending issues another time - there is way to much already and it needs to be cut. However, you claim that the tax cut benifited the rich at the expense of the needy. Another big swing and a miss.

[2strokebloke]

He's a self serving prima donna that will financially decimate the country.

How?

The economy was heading south before he came to office. He turned it around.

Yeah, and Bush also found all of Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. You're first sentence may very well be true - but your second sentence is rather fanciful thinking.

The companies outsourcing are doing so to stay cost competative. If they don't, they'll shut there doors.

They're not doing it to stay cost competitive - they're doing it to earn bigger profits - usually nothing of what they save producing the product overseas (or in Mexico) is passed on to consumers.

[Rbraczyk]

Originally Posted by indyram

At least Bush know what way he is going, rather than Kerry who just goes with whatever way the wind is blowing.

Ok buddy, you keep thinkin that to yourself, and maybe it may come true. maybe if you wish apon a star.

[dbebesi]

Originally Posted by taranaki

SOMEBODY START A THREAD WITH SOME POLICY ARGUMENTS, FOR GOD'S SAKE!

man, you don't like the thread... don't post in it. plain and simple. i don't crack on your threads. so don't crack on mine please. you'll prolly ban me for saying this, but i personally believe you are quite unfair as a moderator. you talk about respecting people's views, but you never do. i see you close threads and ban people, for doing nothing else but expressing opinion. do the rules not apply to you b/c you've been around so long, and have so many posts?

[2strokebloke]

do the rules not apply to you b/c you've been around so long, and have so many posts?

Asking for people to post something worthwhile isn't against any rules...
The moderators will not ban you for holding different political opinions from themselves (because we'd all ban eachother then).

[Tehvisseeus]

Thank God for that because I think Taranaki hates me lol.

[dayna240sx]

Originally Posted by 2strokebloke

The moderators will not ban you for holding different political opinions from themselves (because we'd all ban eachother then).

is that right? I got banned for saying abortion is murder

(we all know that isnt the real reason, but thats the reason he came up with to me)