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Pavlo · #1 10-08-2004, 04:15 PM

This is not really about 240 but it involves cars and speed. Here is the link http://www.11alive.com/news/news_art...?storyid=52953 people from the lexus lost controll and hit a pole, 1 (knew him) deid instanly, another (my moms friend's son, i knew him) died in the ambulance and the other one survived (the driver) in the other car was my sisters class mate who had an accord nothing happened to that guy bit got charged with vehicular homicide, reckless driving, speeding and drag racing.
I posted this so that people will not drag race (or race) on the streets because you gonna kill other people and trust me it feels way different when it's people that you know died out there. IT DOES NOT WORTH IT!!! Plus you gonna kill your beautiful 240 that you love so much. Pls take it to the strip or track.

Ace$nyper · #2 10-08-2004, 04:52 PM

damn thats nasty wreck.

nissan_240sx · #3 10-09-2004, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pavlo

This is not really about 240 but it involves cars and speed. Here is the link http://www.11alive.com/news/news_art...?storyid=52953 people from the lexus lost controll and hit a pole, 1 (knew him) deid instanly, another (my moms friend's son, i knew him) died in the ambulance and the other one survived (the driver) in the other car was my sisters class mate who had an accord nothing happened to that guy bit got charged with vehicular homicide, reckless driving, speeding and drag racing.
I posted this so that people will not drag race (or race) on the streets because you gonna kill other people and trust me it feels way different when it's people that you know died out there. IT DOES NOT WORTH IT!!! Plus you gonna kill your beautiful 240 that you love so much. Pls take it to the strip or track.

I agree

rps13freak · #4 10-09-2004, 01:26 AM

even if people do read this they arnt going to stop street racing. their idiots who think they have something to prove to their girlfriends. they want to show off in thier crappy cars and say they're awesome at driving.

there was this kid at my school with a crappy civic that would race someone every chance he got. the first week he got the car he crashed and laughed. he said it doesnt matter, his parents would fix it for him. half a year later he was racing and he crashed into a pole. his girlfriend was in the car and she broke both of her rists. he died on impact. everyone made up these bullshit stories about how he was such a good duy enen though he was a peice of shit. his girlfreind even said he was an ass. its people like that that dont need cars.

yes i do agree that people shouldnt race in the street but their going to and theres nothing we can do about it.

not trying to be an arse if im sounding like one.

SHO411 · #5 10-09-2004, 11:08 AM

Speaking from experience, I find it unfair for the other driver to be charged with vehicular homicide, he didn't make or force the other drivers to race him, it is just a way of the govt, trying to put their foot down unfairly. If I choose to drive fast, and some idiot starts following me, and he crashes in the midst of it, I think thats bullshit that I'm charged with it. If thats the case, then the next time I'm driving fast and I wreck my car, the guy who was ahead or behind me doing the same speed should be liable for my accident TOO. It is BULLSHIT Plain and simple.
I don't promote street racing, have I done it? YES, will I stop, I'm trying. I've always liked driving fast, and so many times I find idiots just like me following or trying to keep up, now I never asked them or put a gun to their head and asked them to race.
I saw the NEWS and thought is was sad, but I don't agree with the law on this one. The other driver should be or can be charged with street racing, speeding, public endangerment, wreckless driving, but vehicular homicide is BULL, unless he forced the other driver to loose control. They need someone to blame, and instead of blaming the idiot who died, they blame the other driver, and then say, they were all good boys and were coming out of bible study. Blame the dumb parents who went and gave 16 yr old boys a powerful cars, I got my first car when I was 18, and I had to work for it, when I bought my T-Ram, and then busted for speeding, my folks told me it is time to get rid of the car and I did. Now I'm a little older and just a turd bit wiser, I know that when I finish my project, I'll be going to the track. There is this kid who was 17 yrs and hes parents brought his 01 Mach 1 stang to the shop with only 8K miles, the rear tires were bald, and the clutch was rough, and the parents come and say the car was made poorly, and that it should be covered by waranty, what a load of crap.
Besides, how many ppl drive at 90mph in ATL, damn near everyone. Yesterday I was heading to an appointment with my Mom at Douglasville, I was at 90mph, and behind me was a lady with a 01 Lexus 470 doing the same speed, then came a Cadilac escalade who quickly accelerated and stayed behind us. for around 10-20miles, we were at 80-95mph. Now, if the lady in the Lexus Suv (with her daughter in it) lost control and crashed, you want to tell me it is my fault they were keeping up with my speed???????? I never wanted to race them, I wanted to get to the appointment quick, and go home early.

R.W.240 · #6 10-09-2004, 12:03 PM

Im not trying to be an asshole but,
I dont think its street racing to blame... its just people that have no business trying to go over the speed limit trying to impress their friends. Ive seen people drive well over 150mph on the street and have no problems and Ive seen losers in Civics Stallown themselfs going 5mph in a parking lot.

I also like how on the News you see " Two Street racers were racing down main street then pulled in to a dennys to eat. When leaving the Dennys one backed into a 136 yr old lady's Cadilac the local police were quoted as saying "damn streetracer punks... when will they learn..."

Pavlo · #7 10-09-2004, 02:38 PM

Man this feels different when it's actually your friends. And the accord driver was their friend too. The guy I kow originally came with him, but switched into lexus on the way back. The lexus split in half and the engine was some how burning on my friend (his mom told mine). Parents are stupid too to give their kids fast cars, The kid is stupid to go over 130mph on a normal road on a heavy ass car that is not designed for racing, the drivers actually owns a civic, but wanted a lexus to go chill with his friends.

Chuki_breath · #8 10-09-2004, 04:05 PM

i see your point sho411 here in st.louis the same shit happens....speed limit says 60....fastlane is more like 85. Its BS, i love how i get pulled over just because i have a car that LOOKS like i cause trouble and race all the time...iv gotten 2 tickets in the last month for just keeping up with the traffic...GAY!!!!!

and i agree with r.w. 240 street racing is not to blame its dumbass fucks who to blame....when there is a street race here...we 1. block off all lanes on highway
2.RACE 3. go back to where everyone chills and collect your earnings or what not. We dont just go race on stoplight roads with a Dairy Queen and Quick Trip on the corner!!!!

what i dont seem to get is how did he lose control going in a straight line? hit a bump or some shit? This aint no top fuel dragster come on...you know the power didnt just "get away from him".

nissanfanatic · #9 10-09-2004, 04:32 PM

I do 100+ everyday and have been doing so since before I got my license. No wrecks, no tickets. As for what caused the wreck, well anything could have caused it. Some little dog could have wandered in the street and the kid tried and did avoid it causing him to wreck. Anything can happen. Street racing is not to blame. It is an inatimate phrase, how can it do anything? This is just why it should be done safely, orchestrated, and in rural areas. Organization is key. If you want to race someone, both of you should plan when and where to do it. You should bring along two extra people to start the race and declare the winner. And always do a drive through and look for driveways to watch and for the cops. Be safe and be smart. BTW, sorry to hear about that Pavlo.

logik23 · #10 10-09-2004, 11:53 PM

I don't mind street racing, like chuki and nissanfanatic said, if it's organised, then fine. The only thing I hate is when bystanders get hurt, or even worst, killed. There was this guy in Montreal (where I live), he was going down the most crowded downtown street going like 158kmh, that's about 100mph I guess, anyways, on a 2 way, 2 lane each way street with plenty of traffic, anyways he ran a red light and hit a woman and her kid, killed them both, but he didn't even get hurt. He got like 5 years in jail or something, he should have been sentenced to death....well at least like 20-30 years. The point is, if you're going to go fast, there's a time and a place to do it and when there's others around, it's not the place or the time.

lucki17 · #11 10-10-2004, 01:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Chuki_breath

i see your point sho411 here in st.louis the same shit happens....speed limit says 60....fastlane is more like 85. Its BS, i love how i get pulled over just because i have a car that LOOKS like i cause trouble and race all the time...iv gotten 2 tickets in the last month for just keeping up with the traffic...GAY!!!!!

and i agree with r.w. 240 street racing is not to blame its dumbass fucks who to blame....when there is a street race here...we 1. block off all lanes on highway
2.RACE 3. go back to where everyone chills and collect your earnings or what not. We dont just go race on stoplight roads with a Dairy Queen and Quick Trip on the corner!!!!

what i dont seem to get is how did he lose control going in a straight line? hit a bump or some shit? This aint no top fuel dragster come on...you know the power didnt just "get away from him".

how do you block off all lanes on a highway? maybe ours are just busy but we could never do that. we just race on industry roads, no traffic after 9pm, long straight roads, no cops.

mynismo · #12 10-10-2004, 02:25 AM

you block off the highway by rolling 30 cars deep, making a square around the two racing and slow down to about 20 then go. happens a lot where cars meet by me, at least once every week for a big race when someone challenges someone else. happened twice tonight (of course i stayed out of it this week, because hot import nights was in cleveland tonight and cops were EVERYWHERE).

most of these cars-cut-in-half accidents happen with 16 year olds doing 100mph+ in busy city traffic or winding streets. i see it a lot in the news about crashes. really stupid people. you lose control when you hit those high speeds in f'in 25mph speed zones, or if you are doing 150mph+ with light traffic on highway. either way you are pretty darn crazy if you're doing that shit.

i don't know how the driver of the honda would be charged with vehicular homicide. they should completely throw the book at him for wreckless op, drag racing, etc. but he didn't kill anyone, nor is he fully responsible. it takes two to race. he didn't cause the guy to die unless he swerved into the other car to make him crash (could have happened...). seems like they are trying to make a reason for it happening, and trying to blame something or someone when it really isn't there fault, just to please the families of those who got killed. i feel sorry for them, but the guy didn't kill them.

they should really show those gross dead people in their car wrecks in drivers ed more. when i see pictures of dead people in their car due to wrecks it scares me shitless.

D-Bo · #13 10-10-2004, 02:49 AM

man, just hearing about this shit makes me nervous.. i drove home from my gf's aunt's place today which is about a 7 hour drive normally, but took me just over 5.. did anywhere between 110 and 180, most people were doing 140.. after reading that article and what everybody else has posted, i feel like an idiot for driving so fast.. even if it isn't racing, you can still make mistakes anywhere else.. i mean, i don't think i was being reckless but i was going faster than everybody around me...

i guess it takes something like this to smarten people up, and i should know since i had good friends in a car that crashed, one of them dying.. and i hear about a bad accident every monday morning from somebody driving along the 401 and crashing into the rocks..

..makes you think

lucki17 · #14 10-10-2004, 03:04 AM

i dont think is the speed that causes the accidents its not knowing what to do if something goes weird when going fast, something like 85% or major accidents are cause buy a simple mistake or overcorrecting, as long as you have the experince, right car/parts, and commen sence needed to go fast then i think your fine but if you have no idea what your car even feels like when its out of control then you have no idea what to expect, and theirfore you crash. thats why i think its good to mess around in a big empty parking lot a few times a month.

Miata Master · #15 10-10-2004, 11:04 PM

Ya dieing is a shitty way to go. My cousin lost 3 friends in accident because they took a caution 35mph turn at about 120 was the estimate. they slid sideways into a tree compleely seperating into 2 right between the front and back seats killed everyone inside.(It was in a stock Mustang, topped out) Speed does not kill stupidity does and if He would have been alone I wouldn't have blinked an eye. It's like when drunk drivers hit a tree I couldn't care less, hit a power pole I feel sorry for the people who lose power, Hit a family hope they suffer before they die. just the way things are. Stupidity is the only thing dangerous I drove from Philly to Pensacola, I left at 10 am got here at 3 am. I avoid more accidents at 30mph then I ever have to at 90+. and that charge of manslature is total BS. Soon they will charge Bars for servering alcohol to someone who drives afterword.

and as for why race/speed. It is fun plain and simple. There is a risk when I had my miata it was mainly to me. But I'm not afraid of dieing, I'll just feel sorry for all the people who morn my death. the dead are the ones who get off light. When you're dead there's nothing to be sad about you're dead. These are just my beliefs if you find them offensive, it's a free country or atleast it use to be. but I will remove my post if you dont like it. so everyone go have fun responsibly. That means taking your own bullet if it comes down to it.

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