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| View Poll Results: Which is a better Fuel Management system? | |||
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8 | 80.00% |
| "Hack" SAFC/VAFC |
  
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0 | 0% |
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2 | 20.00% |
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#1
10-03-2004, 05:48 PM
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hack or hondata
can someone please tell me what is better. i am going to be turbocharging my b18b (ls) integra and i was wondering what i should use for fuel management. i dunno if i want either the hack (SAFC/VAFC) controller or Hondata. I have heard good things about both but I don't know what to use. I am going to be using either 440cc injectors (if i go with safc/vafc) and 550cc if i go with hondata. because i have heard that the vafc controller can only be used with 440cc injectors. thanks for your opinion. and if you could, write down why you think either one is better.
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95' LS Integra 5spd DC Header (4-2-1) HKS Super Dragger Exhaust Skunk2 Short throw shifter Ground Control Coilovers Strut Bar -SOON to be putting in a JDM B16 hydraulic tranny with lightened flywheel and stage III clutch -SOON to be "home made" turbo charging (goal = 12psi) -GOAL = 250-300hp with stock internals(probably not reachable) 
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#2
10-03-2004, 06:30 PM
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Re: hack or hondata
Depends on how much you're planning on boosting. If you're going like 6-8 psi then might as well save the $ and go with the hack. If you're planning on boosting quite a bit then do the more reliable thing and go with Hondata. The Hondata will be tuned better for your car than just using bigger injectors and then leaning it out with the AFC. I don't know details about hondata, but I'm assuming it will change the fuel ratio through out the powerband instead of having just 1 fuel ratio thru the powerband like the AFC will do...but like I said I might be wrong, I'm just guessing it would be similar to AEM EMS in that aspect.
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#3
10-03-2004, 08:56 PM
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Standalone will always be better than hack. If you cant afford it, hack is fine too. Wanna buy mine, click on the link at sig =)
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99 [email protected] psi si- I voted for the Terminator for Gov. 95 HB- B16a2- SC34@12psi WTB: USDM B16a2 or B16a3 complete short block. pm is the key. FS: B series InlinePro cast mani, PnH RC 550s, and Hondata S2b. pm me.
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#5
10-03-2004, 10:29 PM
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Re: hack or hondata
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i am probably going to be running around 4-5psi when i am just driving, and then around 9-12psi when racing. how much you want for that hondata?
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95' LS Integra 5spd DC Header (4-2-1) HKS Super Dragger Exhaust Skunk2 Short throw shifter Ground Control Coilovers Strut Bar -SOON to be putting in a JDM B16 hydraulic tranny with lightened flywheel and stage III clutch -SOON to be "home made" turbo charging (goal = 12psi) -GOAL = 250-300hp with stock internals(probably not reachable)
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#6
10-04-2004, 12:23 AM
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Re: hack or hondata
yes it will work, but on the p28, you will be running on non vtec.
I would recommend running on your current p75 instead or anything else not P28,P30,P72, and P61.
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99 [email protected] psi si- I voted for the Terminator for Gov. 95 HB- B16a2- SC34@12psi WTB: USDM B16a2 or B16a3 complete short block. pm is the key. FS: B series InlinePro cast mani, PnH RC 550s, and Hondata S2b. pm me.
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#7
10-04-2004, 03:02 AM
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Re: hack or hondata
hack is garbage.
uberdata if your poor and a do it yourself'er hondata if you want a quality
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#8
10-04-2004, 08:52 AM
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well i am going to be converting it into an LS/VTEC when i am done turbocharging. i know i should do the LS/VTEC first but i want turbocharger first. i guess i am going to have to do some research because i dont know what those p#'s are.
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95' LS Integra 5spd DC Header (4-2-1) HKS Super Dragger Exhaust Skunk2 Short throw shifter Ground Control Coilovers Strut Bar -SOON to be putting in a JDM B16 hydraulic tranny with lightened flywheel and stage III clutch -SOON to be "home made" turbo charging (goal = 12psi) -GOAL = 250-300hp with stock internals(probably not reachable)
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#9
10-04-2004, 05:17 PM
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Re: hack or hondata
this should be common sense, but ok..
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#10
10-04-2004, 06:10 PM
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i really hate it when you come into my threads. you start nothing but trouble.
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95' LS Integra 5spd DC Header (4-2-1) HKS Super Dragger Exhaust Skunk2 Short throw shifter Ground Control Coilovers Strut Bar -SOON to be putting in a JDM B16 hydraulic tranny with lightened flywheel and stage III clutch -SOON to be "home made" turbo charging (goal = 12psi) -GOAL = 250-300hp with stock internals(probably not reachable)
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#11
10-04-2004, 06:15 PM
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Re: hack or hondata
Just speaking the truth, all your really doing is wasting bandwith. Oh, and you might want to do LS/Vtec before you put the turbo, it will save you a lot of down time.
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#12
10-04-2004, 10:11 PM
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i really dont think that i am wasting anything with this question. i think a question like "Can you race with an automatic?" is wasting space. everyone knows that every automatic is about 1-2seconds slower in everything (0-60&1/4, etc.) this is actually a logical question. and why should i go with LS/VTEC first v.s. turbo first....i know i will get more hp gains with turbocharger.
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95' LS Integra 5spd DC Header (4-2-1) HKS Super Dragger Exhaust Skunk2 Short throw shifter Ground Control Coilovers Strut Bar -SOON to be putting in a JDM B16 hydraulic tranny with lightened flywheel and stage III clutch -SOON to be "home made" turbo charging (goal = 12psi) -GOAL = 250-300hp with stock internals(probably not reachable)
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#13
10-05-2004, 01:59 AM
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i dont think going uberdata is in anyway considered the cheap way from my perspective
i would go with hondata but since i cant tune it myself i am more forced to go with uberdata. i would go aem but more complicated then hond/eber data. but i dont think going uberdata to me is considered going the cheap way, plus its even harder to go uberdata because of everything you have to do to actually tune the car
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#14
10-05-2004, 01:41 PM
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Uberdata is not bad neither, considering if things are done right.
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99 [email protected] psi si- I voted for the Terminator for Gov. 95 HB- B16a2- SC34@12psi WTB: USDM B16a2 or B16a3 complete short block. pm is the key. FS: B series InlinePro cast mani, PnH RC 550s, and Hondata S2b. pm me.
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10-05-2004, 02:57 PM
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so i would have to go to my local tuner shop to get my hondata tuned for my car to work properly? or i could just get the hack and do it myself...right? with the hack...can i retard the timing? because i have heard you can't
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95' LS Integra 5spd DC Header (4-2-1) HKS Super Dragger Exhaust Skunk2 Short throw shifter Ground Control Coilovers Strut Bar -SOON to be putting in a JDM B16 hydraulic tranny with lightened flywheel and stage III clutch -SOON to be "home made" turbo charging (goal = 12psi) -GOAL = 250-300hp with stock internals(probably not reachable)
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