The new iMacs... I want one

[Gonthrax]

I watched the release deal on TechTV a few weeks ago and I've finaly decided that I must have one. I kinda want two and the second one will be gutted and a hidden AMD tower will be connected to the screen I guess I just want one for the looks, although a nice new G4 with the virtual hub software would be usefull...

[DMC12]

I wanted one until I saw it in real-life. The base is soooo big it looks like a half-dome with this tiny monitor on top. I changed my mind real fast! The press photos lie.

[YogsVR4]

I just cant get worked up over Apples. Until they change their philosophy to software developers, they will always be a second rate platform.

[MBTN]

Originally posted by Gonthrax
I watched the release deal on TechTV a few weeks ago and I've finaly decided that I must have one. I kinda want two and the second one will be gutted and a hidden AMD tower will be connected to the screen I guess I just want one for the looks, although a nice new G4 with the virtual hub software would be usefull...

So you HAVE been brainwashed to get faggy purple transparent computers!

[ImportFanatics.com]

I think the new iMAC's are UGLY I don't know what Apple was thinking when they decided to release it...

[NeoFreek]

I saw those new iMacs at the Apple store at Mall of America this weekend. They look like crap in pictures and even when you first see them. But after playing around on them for about 5 minutes it completely changed my mind. They are great computers, except for the fact that they are Macs. The screens on them are huge. It almost seems like the computer might tip forward because of the weight of the screen. I actually am thinking of getting one when I have the current funds for one. It would be a major improvement over my current computer.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by NeoFreek
I saw those new iMacs at the Apple store at Mall of America this weekend. They look like crap in pictures and even when you first see them. But after playing around on them for about 5 minutes it completely changed my mind. They are great computers, except for the fact that they are Macs. The screens on them are huge. It almost seems like the computer might tip forward because of the weight of the screen. I actually am thinking of getting one when I have the current funds for one. It would be a major improvement over my current computer.

That is a big monitor? What have you been using till now?An ech-a-sckech?

And the Imac is very seriously weak.
This is what i think about them:apuke:

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by MBTN


So you HAVE been brainwashed to get faggy purple transparent computers!

I second that!!!

[AEstud]

Oh yeah the new mac'ntrashes...Im glad that they made another line of computers so they can suck somemore.

[NeoFreek]

Originally posted by Neutrino


That is a big monitor? What have you been using till now?An ech-a-sckech?

And the Imac is very seriously weak.
This is what i think about them:apuke:

Just to make sure we are on the same page, this is the new iMac.

They had ones set up with 17 inch flat screen displays. The one pictured is a 15 inch, I believe.

[jaxle]

macs are pretty tight, or atleast appear to be, i really cant give any opinions till i use one for a month or two, and i think u should all be open minded instead of trashing the mac right away. os x is a lot more stable than its previous ones but i still cant say that really till i use one for a long time, but my first impressions on using a mac w/ os x is a good one.

[Strider Negro]

I use one in college and so far i have had no complaints about it. however, when i considered getting one was the problem...too expensive and from what i hear it's a biatch to upgrade...if it weren't that complicated then hell i would have already bought one
oh well i'll just have to stick with clones instead...until i get more funds than i purchase a powermac dual processor G4 or maybe even a G5!!!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

[Webmaster_Zeus]

Originally Posted by Neutrino

And the Imac is very seriously weak.

On what bases are they "weak"?

Mac are aimed at a different market, not the mainstream market, but the desktop publishing market, such as magazines, companies that does a lot of 3d work, etc (although u can get rendering farms of linux's performing such tasks, but they're surprizingly not as fast as a mac).

The new mac can render scenes/images faster then a dual 2000xp and 1gig ecc ram OR dual Xeon 2.8ghz with about 1gig rambus ram/ddr ram (whatever).

I mean, let's put things in relative context, its a bit unfair to benchmark them to a market they don't target.

Comparison of the operating system and software support, they're a nitche market, u get that. Plus the OS is based on the unix kernel (not linux, unix), which stability and security isn't comprimised (and let's not forget the various networking levels it supports is superior to a windows boxen).

Edited to add this bit at the bottom:

Mac -
dual 1ghz G4, 1G of ECC ram, 2x80 HDD

PC1 -
dual amd 2600, 1G of ECC ram 4x60G(rackmount machine).

PC2 -
dual intel pIV 2.8G xeon(with HT), 2G ECC and 4x72g 15k uw320.

Each pc was used to render a 1min 15 sec video, the amd box took 5 mins longer to render this in aftereffects, max, lightwave and maya(renderman4.5).

Of course an SGI box would perform relatively as well as the mac or better, but there's a give and take.

Naturally a selection of the type of pc would be based on its application, for a server something of citrix or maybe a sun system or even just a windows boxen/linux, but its all a matter of trade-offs (again).

[Webmaster_Zeus]

Originally Posted by YogsVR4

I just cant get worked up over Apples. Until they change their philosophy to software developers, they will always be a second rate platform.

Macs have always been exclusively wanting to create their own market where they control/own monopoly to basically everything (key word here is basically).

Doing such things have its pros and cons.

Pros:
- By creating everything their own, maximum compatibility is ensured, less redundant cycles of instructions are performed when a task it being operated or writing drivers.
- optimizations can be done as there is a set level, so efficiency is able
- since everything is created by them (and they know what the limitations are as no1 is going to change the specification once design stages have passed to production stage), maximum compatibility between software, os and hardware can be bridged, giving the user greater power and optimization.

Cons:
- cost factor, keeping everything proprietry means a less market share, less competitors, etc
- breeding in exclusive speciality (this is what I call it), where they only have one mindset, and this is the way things are done, no competitors to give "alternatives" or them "the run for their money"
- compatibility, between mainly cross platforms, with an ibm compatible platform, files can be exchanged between linux software and windows based software as well as unix based software, with a mac, not a chance. (this point here I'm not talking about copying files, rather opening a file such as word, although u can get microsoft word on macs, it changes the properties of the file so it might/might not work on a windows boxen).
- the layout of typesetting is different, as they all have their default standard.

there is other pros and cons, but it can be listed all day.

Basically during design stages and marketing strategies, this is the option they adopted, it musn't been too bad as they survived until now.