Strengthing Internals

[civicguy167]

hey i have a 96 civic ex and putting my turbo in soon. Ive been thinking about this alot and decided to go ahead and stregthen internals also so i can turn the boost up more. What would be good parts to install in my d16? I was thinking:
Camshafts
Camgears
Pistons

what else should i condider? How much should i be able to push with these new engine parts?

[CivicSpoon]

I'd add connecting rods to that list, before camshaft and cam gear. If you don't then that's what your weak link is going to be with the motor. After that you'll just have to sorry about valve float (upgraded valvetrain when you get the cam will help prevent this) and of course detonation. Basically detonation would be the only thing from boosting too high. The only way to know how much you can push it is to get a professional to tune the car for you and they will tell you how much is safe to boost. That's just real real basic info, if you want more better indepth info I'd suggest checking out www.homemadeturbo.com and www.turbod16.com messageboards. Both sites have a ton of info and will most likely be more helpful than info you'll get here (seeing as they specialize in d16 turbo aplications).

[dat1laosguy]

block guard and if you can afford it sleeves boost as much as you want

[GScivic7]

I agree with Civicspoon except the cam gear part. It'll be nice to be able to adjust the timing even without an aftermarket cam when you take your car in to be tuned.

[97CivicX]

cam shafts and cam gears do not strengthen your internals. pistons, rods, and sleeves are what strengthen your internals

[95dxcivic]

You should also think about a head gasket. Oh and BTW, how much does it cost to sleeve a block.

[GScivic7]

I know darton sleeves go for about $50 a piece at www.raceeng.com and I have been told by a shop that you can't really just remove your old sleeves. They have to grind them away and then put in the new sleeves so I'm guessing it's going to cost a pretty penny for labor.

[Civic_D16Y5]

how about duct tape your old sleeves?

[civicguy167]

Alrighty, heres my parts list i came up with:

Darton Sleeves (DARTON FLANGED SLEEVE16-75mm)
Race Engineering Block Guards
Eagle Rods (EAGLE ROD KIT:HONDA D16)
Wiseco Piston Kit (WIS D16Y8:75.5mm-8.8:1/RINGS*)

Anything else i should tack on there? Thanks for everyones help

[mellowboy]

Wiseco pistons are excellent choice That seems about it. Well you definitely need to upgrade your fuel. Fuel pump, fuel injectors (dsm 450cc injectors which are cheap). You dont need an aftermarket cam. Unless you want to run rich.

[GScivic7]

you don't need the block guard if you are getting sleeves, but the rest of it looks good.

[97CivicX]

just a question, what psi are you planning to run on all this

[civicguy167]

iwas hoping to run 10-15psi daily but then 20 or more for racing but im not sure if it can handle that im accully pretty curious to know what a psi for this setup would be???

[GScivic7]

10-15 for daily is crazy...I would set it more at like 7-10 daily and up to 15-20 for racing

with 8.8:1 compression pistons and the Darton flanged sleeves, which I believe are supposed to be able to handle like 20-25 psi or something like that, you should be able to run some crazy ass boost at the track. What turbo or kit are you planning on running with all this?

[civicguy167]

the turbo kit im gonna build myself i was thinkin:
t3/ .42.48 Turbo
intercooler
440cc injectors
AFC hack
Greddy PROFEC B SPEC II electronic boost controller
blitz dd (BOV)


just to name a few parts.....


How much horsepower would you estimate me getting with my whole setup running about 19-20psi at the track???