Escort Racing VG34ET for you Z31 guys...

[1viadrft]

�œVG34ET 3381cc (84-89 300ZX Z31)
Stage 1�F$5,849.00 ~
93mm Escort Racing Pistons, Cylinder boring, Valve resurface, Relief porting, NISMO rods & main bearings, and replace any necessary worn seals and gaskets.
($1,500 core charge)


Stage 2�F$6,949.00~
St1+ 272 deg cams, Racing valve springs, Head porting.


Stage 3�F$CALL

N/A versions also available. Please call for more information

*Prices do not include core charge
*Complete engine does not include intake manifold &
plenum,exhaust manifold, turbos, water pump, and distributor.
*Since these engines are build for competition, there is no term of guarantee
*Shipping cost not included


Kinda cool, huh?

[freakonaleash1187]

this is awesome. llz should go win the lottery and get this engine.

[1viadrft]

Cool, huh? I'm not sure where those engines came out of?

[longlivetheZ]

Very cool.

However...I wouldn't do it unless I did win the lottery.

Think about this...that's a butt load of money to spend on JUST the engine of a turbo'd car. I don't really think it's all that worth it. I would rather just beef up the engine some for reliability's sake, ie SGP Racing's services...not as expensive but will still keep you from sweating too bad, and spend the rest on turbo upgrades and things of that nature which is REALLY what makes a turbo'd engine powerful.

If it were N/A, then hell yea...do all you can do to the engine internals and everything...go for it...it's all ya got! But on a turbo'd engine, that's kind of a waste/overkill because that's not really where you're getting your power.

All in all...pretty cool, though.

[1viadrft]

I wonder how much HP you can get outta one of those?

[longlivetheZ]

It would depend on what turbo you're running and all that goes along with that. If you have that unbelievable engine but are running a stock turbo, you're probably not gunna be doing much better than low 5 sec dashes to 60.

On the other hand...I can do a little beefing up to the internals, then spend the majority of my money on turbos, fuel upgrades, ignition upgrades, etc...all the stuff needed to support a big ass turbo. This would result in MUCH more power, similar reliability and would probably cost less...all assuming the turbo system is well planned and executed.

Quick sum up: I don't really see the point in spending tons of money on the engine when the main focus should be beefing up the turbo and all of it's systems because THIS is what makes your power.

[freakonaleash1187]

the point most likely is to create an engine for track guys. people who only use their z31 for the track. and if thats all you use it for, then you want the best of everything.

[longlivetheZ]

Yea...but it all comes down to da flow...money...CASH...I'm not made of money, so I have to do this on a budget. An Escort Racing crate engine would be awesome though...maybe I'll win the lottery someday...

[1viadrft]

Tell you what... I'll buy it for you once I win the lotto or when I finally start my TUNING SHOP (specializing in NISSAN's of-course!) I'll hook you up and sponsor you! Hell all of you!

[MikeMan]

I think the point here is strengthening the engine so that it can handle higher power.. Sure the stock internals are good up to 500hp or so, but try to go far beyond that and you're going to have a metal and oil soup instead of an engine. Sure throwing a bigger turbo is going to give you more peak power, but you cant just throw a turbo on and boost it up to 28 psi without some major internal modifications.

Secondly, changing the turbo alone is going to get you a higher *peak* power. Changing cams and replacing engine internals with lighter components (less reciprocating, sprung and unsprung mass) you're going to increase the area under the power curve, resulting in a more even power distribution over the entire rpm range. Any fool can get a pissy little 2L engine, throw a big turbo on it and claim 400hp, but a 400hp VG30DETT with worked internals is going to perform a helluva lot better, due to the greater area under the torque/power curve.

In short, its a waste of money if you're going to get a turbo and push it to 400-500hp. But its going to be a necessary step to get more out of the engine.

cheers.
-Mike

[1viadrft]

Hey, Mike... long-time no-see! How's the Frankenstien-Monster going?

[longlivetheZ]

I'm not saying to slap a big turbo on a stock engine. You do have to do othr things as well...for reliability and for better performance. I just think the package in question went a bit overboard. It is an amazing engine...by far...I'm just saying that I could have an amazing engine as well...just without going that far.

Via...I'm takin you up on that...

[DeleriousZ]

me too me too!! err.. maybe i'd have to move to the states first... mike for some reason a metal and oil soup sounds incredibly tasty for some weird reason... what the hell!

[MikeMan]

Originally Posted by 1viadrft

Hey, Mike... long-time no-see! How's the Frankenstien-Monster going?

I've been hiding in the shadows after Samhain got his moderatorship. Sometimes I get really pissed off at his spelling of 'Aussie' and go to write a big bitch post and then realise that he's a pretty cool bloke.

As for the 'z31 and a half' I keep on getting stuck on little bitch problems that dont go away. For example, I had my custom tuned length headers made up for the VG30DE (as the stock exhaust manifold wouldn't fit in my engine bay) but it doesn't leave any room at all for the oil filter bracket to bolt on.
I had to get a block of aluminium engineered to fit in and take the oil away to a remote filter, and even then I'm running into all sorts of problems getting the manifold to fit back on. I've taken this piece back to the engineer 4 times already.
The only thing that keeps me going is imagining what its going to sound like (and feel like) when its finished.

I'll take a photo of this oil adaptor when I get the chance for you all to see how twisted and hacked up it is.

-Mike

[Zgringo]

Hey Iviadrft wanna see another killer VG30DE engine? http://www.nissanperformancemag.com/...nitiengine.php
http://z32racing.50megs.com/Z/_photo...24/page_01.htm
If you really want to build your dream car after you win the lotto, try these next two sites.
http://www.jerrybickel.com/chassis_kits.html
http://pistonvsrotor.com/proyectos/p...023/index.html
Build this with a 35 IRL engine w/6speed transmission